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Today's Topics:
1. Re: trying to install libraries for Haskell School of
Expression (Brandon Allbery)
2. Re: trying to install libraries for Haskell School of
Expression (DJ)
3. Re: trying to install libraries for Haskell School of
Expression (emacstheviking)
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Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2015 15:11:11 -0500
From: Brandon Allbery <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] trying to install libraries for
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On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 2:31 PM, DJ <[email protected]> wrote:
> Brandon: Thanks. I did have to install some gtk libraries. I am also
> working in a sandbox now. This moved things ahead somewhat. But I am
> getting this now from 'cabal install soegtk':
>
> Graphics/SOE/Gtk.hs:94:18:
> Could not find module `System.Time'
> It is a member of the hidden package `old-time-1.1.0.1'.
>
That would be an out of date [program referring to the old time component
(which wasn't very good, but was in base so didn't need dependencies). Just
adding a dependency on old-time to the cabal file should be sufficient to
get it to work.
I don't know why soegtk hasn't been updated to either reference that
package or use the modern time package.
--
brandon s allbery kf8nh sine nomine associates
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Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2015 16:43:53 -0500
From: DJ <[email protected]>
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Thanks for the help, guys.
Life is short. I have spent the better part of two days trying to get
soegtk to install. No luck. Same shit as when I left haskell behind two
years ago.
I'm out.
- DJ -
On 15-02-28 11:40 PM, DJ wrote:
> Trying to install the package soegtk.
>
> I am running linux mint 17 with the latest (as of Feb. 28) haskell
> platform and cabal-install.
>
> I did install gtk2hs-buildtools and put the .cabal/bin in my path.
>
> Cannot install soegtk:
>
> Failed to install glib-0.12.5.4
> cabal: Error: some packages failed to install:
> cairo-0.12.5.3 failed during the configure step. The exception was:
> ExitFailure 1
> gio-0.12.5.3 depends on glib-0.12.5.4 which failed to install.
> glib-0.12.5.4 failed during the configure step. The exception was:
> ExitFailure 1
> gtk-0.12.5.7 depends on glib-0.12.5.4 which failed to install.
> pango-0.12.5.3 depends on glib-0.12.5.4 which failed to install.
> soegtk-0.12.1 depends on glib-0.12.5.4 which failed to install.
>
> Confession: I abandoned Haskell two years ago because of frustration
> with cabal and hackage. I decided to get back to the language today,
> and to start with Haskell School of Expression. I immediately run into
> the problem that the first thing I try to install with cabal does not
> work.
>
> Thanks for any help. Please tell me things are not just as bad now as
> they were when I left ;-)
>
> - DJP -
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Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 11:46:05 +0000
From: emacstheviking <[email protected]>
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Agreed. I will "finish" with a mild semi-demi-rant too regarding the
assumption by a lot of posters that we are all academics with access to
papers on this and that. I am not and I don't. If you cite a paper, make
sure it's available to Joe Public please!
As for only sticking to plain vanialla simple Haskell, yes, that works BUT
there are some many great libraries that a real time savers...it's such a
shame when they won't play well together!
So, despite it all, tonight I will be hacking Haskell !
:)
On 1 March 2015 at 19:27, DJ <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yeah. I think there are a lot of us out there. I won't rant (much) here,
> because I hope to get some help from time to time. Alienating people is not
> a good way to get help.
>
> But:
>
> There are many things I like about the language, but I have always been
> perplexed by the haskell ecosystem in a couple of ways. However good and/or
> interesting a language might be, it is not possible to do meat and potatoes
> development unless there is a good supply of packages/libraries.
>
> My first problem was that I often just could not get stuff to install. The
> second problem was documentation. I hope it has improved a bit. I was
> always flabbergasted at the (apparent) belief that a few lines of API
> documentation coughed out by haddock are enough. But that's all there was
> in a lot of cases. That, and "refer to xxxx research paper" and "figure it
> out from the types". Hah. Any math paper that consisted of just the
> equations sorted in alphabetical order would not be well received, I think.
>
> I really admired that fact that Michael Snoyman wrote a book about Yesod.
> For all I know he may not have kept the book up, but at least he realized
> that people needed an explanation of how to use his software.
>
> Well, back to work. I am going to give haskell another try for sure. It's
> just too tempting to give up on. If it doesn't work, the next stop will be
> sml or ocaml.
>
> Best,
>
> - DJ -
>
>
> On 15-03-01 09:56 AM, emacstheviking wrote:
>
> I feel your pain...
>
>
>> Confession: I abandoned Haskell two years ago because of frustration with
>> cabal and hackage. I decided to get back to the language today, and to
>> start with Haskell School of Expression. I immediately run into the problem
>> that the first thing I try to install with cabal does not work.
>>
>> It is the same reason I have stopped using it. It's a real shame. Those
> with better education and understanding than mine should be concerned that
> the uptake of the language is stunted by its package manager.
>
> I love Haskell. I have taught myself (the beginnings at least) of group
> theory just to better comprehend the mindset of monads. For that alone I am
> glad I learned Haskell as it has rekindled my interest in maths!
>
>
>
>> Thanks for any help. Please tell me things are not just as bad now as
>> they were when I left ;-)
>>
>> This mail seems to indicate to me that "cabal hell" is here for some
> time to come...
>
>
>
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