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Today's Topics:
1. Re: The (x:xs) in function parameter is a tuple? (Max Voit)
2. Re: general observation about programming (Dudley Brooks)
3. Folders and sub-folders (Mike Houghton)
4. Re: Folders and sub-folders (Imants Cekusins)
5. Re: general observation about programming (Jeffrey Brown)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 16:14:05 +0100
From: Max Voit <max.voit+m...@with-eyes.net>
To: beginners@haskell.org
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] The (x:xs) in function parameter is a
tuple?
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On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 07:49:56 +0800
Nan Xiao <xiaonan830...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rein referred "A tuple can have any number of elements", while Graham
> referred "There's no "one-ple", or 1-tuple, in Haskell.". So which one
> is right? The tuple at least contains 2 elements?
There is no one-tuple; however, there's a zero-tuple. Also no arbitrary
number of tuple elements allowed, due to definition (we're at 61 for
some reason). Refer to
http://hackage.haskell.org/package/ghc-prim-0.4.0.0/docs/GHC-Tuple.html
best, Max
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 08:17:45 -0800
From: Dudley Brooks <dbro...@runforyourlife.org>
To: beginners@haskell.org
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] general observation about programming
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Ages and ages ago I saw this advice about programming:
Q: "What's the best language for a programmer to know?"
A: "English" (or whatever your native language is)
-- Dudley
On 2/24/16 4:03 PM, Dennis Raddle wrote:
> This is more about programming in general than Haskell, although
> Haskellers probably know it well.
>
> I don't claim to have expert knowledge on this, but I'm gradually
> getting better at it.
>
> When I set out to write a program, or refactor a program, or modify a
> program, it helps to set out my thinking in a clear way. And how I
> make it clear is to document my thoughts.
>
> An outline is one good way to organize thoughts and is probably my
> main tool. But good English prose is also helpful.
>
> The key factor is "editing." In what sense do I mean that? Good
> writers do it, and the Haskell documentation does it. I mean (1)
> brevity and (2) good flow. To achieve brevity, you must think about
> the essence of each statement and trim away the unnecessary stuff.
> Good flow refers to how the document builds up and modifies your
> concepts as you read it. A document can actually mirror an effective
> learning process, or influence and change your process.
>
> I work with my documentation, making several editing passes. By the
> time I'm done, I am in a great position to write a concise and
> flexible program.
>
> It's interesting that not only is Haskell a concise language, but the
> Haskell library documentation is concise. Contrast that with the
> Python documentation which often wanders about into areas that are
> irrelevant--it could easily be cut into one third its present size.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 18:41:20 +0000
From: Mike Houghton <mike_k_hough...@yahoo.co.uk>
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Subject: [Haskell-beginners] Folders and sub-folders
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Hi,
I?m trying to build up a list of all folders (including subfolders) from a
given root folder.
So I have
folders :: FilePath -> IO [FilePath]
folders fp = do
all <- getDirectoryContents fp
filterM doesDirectoryExist $ map (fp </>) all
and this just gets the immediate folders within the given folder.
I?m stuck on how to recursively call folders and build up the IO [FilePath]
folders :: FilePath -> IO [FilePath]
folders fp = do
all <- getDirectoryContents fp
-- z :: IO [FilePath]
let z = filterM doesDirectoryExist $ map (fp </>) all
? z? :: [FilePath]
z' <- z
? ?? what should happen here?
z : (map folders z?)
Couldn't match expected type ?[FilePath]?
with actual type ?IO [FilePath]?
In the first argument of ?(:)?, namely ?z?
In a stmt of a 'do' block: z : (map folders z')
etc...
Thanks
Mike
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 20:07:37 +0100
From: Imants Cekusins <ima...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] Folders and sub-folders
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Hello Mike,
below code find all files recursively from a starting point. It works.
You'd need to tweak it to find folders instead.
import System.Directory
import Data.List
findAllFiles::FilePath -> IO [FilePath]
findAllFiles base0 = gd1 base0
>>= \list1 -> concatMap' recurse3 list1
where gd1 d1 = filter f2 <$> (getDirectoryContents d1)
f2 "." = False
f2 ".." = False
f2 _ = True
recurse3 md3 = doesDirectoryExist md3full
>>= \isDir3 ->
if isDir3 then findAllFiles md3full
else pure [md3full]
where md3full = base0 ++ "/" ++ md3
concatMap':: (a -> IO [b]) -> [a] -> IO [b]
concatMap' m0 list0 = sequence (m0 <$> list0)
>>= \list2 -> pure $ concat list2
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 11:19:24 -0800
From: Jeffrey Brown <jeffbrown....@gmail.com>
To: dbro...@runforyourlife.org, The Haskell-Beginners Mailing List -
Discussion of primarily beginner-level topics related to Haskell
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Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] general observation about programming
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Something I like about functional programming is how it interfaces with
natural language. Haskell, somehow to a greater extent than other
languages, encourages me to divide functions into one or two-liners. Each
has a type signature that means something in English. Further, each gives
you the opportunity to choose a good name for the function and its
arguments. After doing those things, the function is much easier to write,
and much easier to read -- so much so that often you don't have to read the
function body at all, just the type signature, function name and argument
names.
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Dudley Brooks <dbro...@runforyourlife.org>
wrote:
> Ages and ages ago I saw this advice about programming:
>
> Q: "What's the best language for a programmer to know?"
>
> A: "English" (or whatever your native language is)
>
> -- Dudley
>
>
> On 2/24/16 4:03 PM, Dennis Raddle wrote:
>
> This is more about programming in general than Haskell, although
> Haskellers probably know it well.
>
> I don't claim to have expert knowledge on this, but I'm gradually getting
> better at it.
>
> When I set out to write a program, or refactor a program, or modify a
> program, it helps to set out my thinking in a clear way. And how I make it
> clear is to document my thoughts.
>
> An outline is one good way to organize thoughts and is probably my main
> tool. But good English prose is also helpful.
>
> The key factor is "editing." In what sense do I mean that? Good writers do
> it, and the Haskell documentation does it. I mean (1) brevity and (2) good
> flow. To achieve brevity, you must think about the essence of each
> statement and trim away the unnecessary stuff. Good flow refers to how the
> document builds up and modifies your concepts as you read it. A document
> can actually mirror an effective learning process, or influence and change
> your process.
>
> I work with my documentation, making several editing passes. By the time
> I'm done, I am in a great position to write a concise and flexible program.
>
> It's interesting that not only is Haskell a concise language, but the
> Haskell library documentation is concise. Contrast that with the Python
> documentation which often wanders about into areas that are irrelevant--it
> could easily be cut into one third its present size.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
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