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Today's Topics:
1. Re: R/W from/to partitions (on linux) (Silent Leaf)
2. Re: Improve my lambda expressions (Frerich Raabe)
3. Re: R/W from/to partitions (on linux) (Silent Leaf)
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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 12:53:57 +0200
From: Silent Leaf <silent.le...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] R/W from/to partitions (on linux)
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yes, conduits really seem optimal! i'll probably use that in my final
version, thanks!
however i'll first try without using pre-made tools, to get the handle (ha)
of manually using (binary) files with haskell, as after all my program isn
that complicated.
2017-06-26 10:42 GMT+02:00 Stefan Risberg <steffeno...@gmail.com>:
> I would use some streaming library instead of lazy bytestring to keep
> memory at reasonably low levels. It will also help with reading chunks, and
> then composing actions on it.
>
> For library need you got: conduits, iostreams and pipes
>
>
>
>
> On 26 Jun. 2017 10:37, "Silent Leaf" <silent.le...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> i'm reading on the doc of BS.Lazy.hGetContents:
> "Once EOF is encountered, the Handle is closed."
>
> what does that imply if i'm using it inside of withFile? no risk of
> getting prematurely out of the function right? that doesn seem possible in
> a pure function but i'm asking either way.
> if say i do something that reads the whole file, say calculating its
> length, does it mean since EOF will be reached i'll have to open the file
> again? i think i'm a bit lost...
>
> i'm trying to find how to read big chunks of two files, do stuff with each
> pair of chunk, and so on till the EOF, which may or may not happen at the
> same time for both... i don't really know how lazy bytestrings handle, for
> example, taking too much from a file. one way would be to calculate the
> length, ofc, but for files (partition) of several dozens of gigabytes, it's
> a bit delicate... the ideal would be to get the length from the system
> itself rather than calculate the whole string ...
>
> 2017-06-26 7:57 GMT+02:00 Silent Leaf <silent.le...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Darn quick answer! Thanks Sylvain, that may be all i need to start!
>>
>> 2017-06-26 7:51 GMT+02:00 Sylvain Henry <sylv...@haskus.fr>:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> It is not Haskell specific. You just have to read from the partition
>>> device special file (e.g., something like /dev/sdb2) as you would do with a
>>> normal file. You must have the permission to do so (e.g., be root). Be
>>> careful as you can destroy your system if you write something incorrect in
>>> your partitions.
>>>
>>> Repositioning handles: https://www.stackage.org/haddo
>>> ck/lts-8.20/base-4.9.1.0/System-IO.html#g:13
>>>
>>> Read/write: https://www.stackage.org/haddock/lts-8.20/base-4.9.1.0/Syste
>>> m-IO.html#v:hPutBuf
>>>
>>> Sylvain
>>>
>>> On 26/06/2017 07:35, Silent Leaf wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'd like to be able to read and write from/to partitions directly. I've
>>> had trouble with the documentation (honestly i can't find anything, and any
>>> mention of partitions leads to mathematical partitioning of lists or
>>> whatever).
>>>
>>> I obviously would need to be able to write or read from a specific
>>> position in the partition. Mind you that would be good too for files (that
>>> is, being able to read/write from a specific position in it) since i plan
>>> on making disk images.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>>
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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 13:04:27 +0200
From: Frerich Raabe <ra...@froglogic.com>
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On 2017-06-26 11:38, PATRICK BROWNE wrote:
> The code below provides a distance function that works for points and moving
> point.
> I am happy with the result, but I have a problem with the lambda
> expressions.
[..]
> -- Sttic points
> p1, p2 :: Point Float
> p1 = Point 0.0 0.0
> p2 = Point 4.0 4.0
> d = dist p1 p2
>
> -- Moving points
> mp1, mp2 :: Point Float
> mp1x = (\t -> 4.0 + 0.5 * t)
> mp1y = (\t -> 4.0 - 0.5 * t)
> mp1 = Point (mp1x 2) (mp1y 2)
> mp2x = (\t -> 0.0 + 1.0 * t)
> mp2y = (\t -> 0.0 - 1.0 * t)
> mp2 = Point (mp2x 2) (mp2y 2)
> md = dist mp1 mp2
Maybe you could reduce the number of lambda expressions by extracting common
logic. It seems to me that 'mp1' and 'mp2' are moved versions of the same
point (2,2) except that they apply different functions to the coordinates.
These functions follow a pattern (a factor is applied to the component and
then an 'offset' is added).
For instance, it might be worthwhile to define
movePoint :: Float -> Float -> Point -> Point
movePoint offset factor (Point x y) = Point (offset + factor * x) (offset -
factor * y)
...such that you could then define
md = let p = Point 2 2 in dist (movePoint 4 0.5 p) (movePoint 0 1 p)
--
Frerich Raabe - ra...@froglogic.com
www.froglogic.com - Multi-Platform GUI Testing
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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 13:33:24 +0200
From: Silent Leaf <silent.le...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] R/W from/to partitions (on linux)
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i'm trying to get for which purpose BS.strict and BS.lazy are adapted. am i
right to think that:
lazy bytestrings are not optimal when needing to read huge files of several
gigabytes, bc they are only lazy to the extent that the very long
bytestring is not read to the end. aka it's like haskell's natural
laziness, if i compute [0..2^20] == [0..2^20] it won't just take a lot of
time but will also (try to) keep in memory both huge lists, aka the
operation is not intrinsically on minimal resources, comparing each item of
each list and discarding the previous ones at the same time; more generally
the lists or bytestrings, be they lazy, are still only deallocated when the
whole variable (the whole list/array) is dereferenced.
thus if i need say to read very huge files and compare them together block
by block, it's better for me to use strict bytestrings for each pair of
chunks and manually move the handle from one block to the other, looping
over the whole file. correct?
2017-06-26 12:53 GMT+02:00 Silent Leaf <silent.le...@gmail.com>:
> yes, conduits really seem optimal! i'll probably use that in my final
> version, thanks!
> however i'll first try without using pre-made tools, to get the handle
> (ha) of manually using (binary) files with haskell, as after all my program
> isn that complicated.
>
> 2017-06-26 10:42 GMT+02:00 Stefan Risberg <steffeno...@gmail.com>:
>
>> I would use some streaming library instead of lazy bytestring to keep
>> memory at reasonably low levels. It will also help with reading chunks, and
>> then composing actions on it.
>>
>> For library need you got: conduits, iostreams and pipes
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26 Jun. 2017 10:37, "Silent Leaf" <silent.le...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> i'm reading on the doc of BS.Lazy.hGetContents:
>> "Once EOF is encountered, the Handle is closed."
>>
>> what does that imply if i'm using it inside of withFile? no risk of
>> getting prematurely out of the function right? that doesn seem possible in
>> a pure function but i'm asking either way.
>> if say i do something that reads the whole file, say calculating its
>> length, does it mean since EOF will be reached i'll have to open the file
>> again? i think i'm a bit lost...
>>
>> i'm trying to find how to read big chunks of two files, do stuff with
>> each pair of chunk, and so on till the EOF, which may or may not happen at
>> the same time for both... i don't really know how lazy bytestrings handle,
>> for example, taking too much from a file. one way would be to calculate the
>> length, ofc, but for files (partition) of several dozens of gigabytes, it's
>> a bit delicate... the ideal would be to get the length from the system
>> itself rather than calculate the whole string ...
>>
>> 2017-06-26 7:57 GMT+02:00 Silent Leaf <silent.le...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Darn quick answer! Thanks Sylvain, that may be all i need to start!
>>>
>>> 2017-06-26 7:51 GMT+02:00 Sylvain Henry <sylv...@haskus.fr>:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> It is not Haskell specific. You just have to read from the partition
>>>> device special file (e.g., something like /dev/sdb2) as you would do with a
>>>> normal file. You must have the permission to do so (e.g., be root). Be
>>>> careful as you can destroy your system if you write something incorrect in
>>>> your partitions.
>>>>
>>>> Repositioning handles: https://www.stackage.org/haddo
>>>> ck/lts-8.20/base-4.9.1.0/System-IO.html#g:13
>>>>
>>>> Read/write: https://www.stackage.org/haddo
>>>> ck/lts-8.20/base-4.9.1.0/System-IO.html#v:hPutBuf
>>>>
>>>> Sylvain
>>>>
>>>> On 26/06/2017 07:35, Silent Leaf wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to be able to read and write from/to partitions directly. I've
>>>> had trouble with the documentation (honestly i can't find anything, and any
>>>> mention of partitions leads to mathematical partitioning of lists or
>>>> whatever).
>>>>
>>>> I obviously would need to be able to write or read from a specific
>>>> position in the partition. Mind you that would be good too for files (that
>>>> is, being able to read/write from a specific position in it) since i plan
>>>> on making disk images.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
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