> hirzel, thanks for the note. > > btw, what do you mean by _late_ andreas raab? has he passed away or > something? > hope that's not true.
Very sad. Yes it is true he passed away early last year. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Raab Ron > > i will be going for an earlier version, thanks for reminding me about that > approach. > > ~mayuresh > > > On 2014-09-06 10:10, H. Hirzel wrote: > > Mayuresh, > > > > There is a thread in the mail archive > > > > Subject: All MVC image > > Date: Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 5:02 PM > > > > It mentions an MVC image done by Sungjin Chun which the late Andreas > > Raab considered very fine. > > > > The MVC implementation in the current squeak still has problems. > > > > So if you are interested in MVC I suggest that you go for an earlier > > version. > > > > (Or you try Cuis which is Morphic only -- reworked by Juan Vuletich -- > > but is fast https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev -- > > only 600 classes in the image) > > > > > > --Hannes > > > > > > > > On 9/6/14, Casey Ransberger <casey.obrie...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Woot! I can't answer your question, but I do have a strong interest > >> in being able to unload the Morphic environment. In something like a > >> web server, Morphic just wastes a lot of CPU cycles, and MVC is much > >> less expensive (as we've seen on lower end machines like the > >> Raspberry Pi,) so it would be fantastic to elevate it to its former > >> glory as a complete solution to the user interface of applications > >> which do not require the flexibility of the Morphic environment, like > >> the system browser. > >> > >> Unfortunately, while I have plenty of experience with the MVC > >> "pattern," I have only really just sat in awe of how fast Squeak runs > >> inside an MVC project. Having someone around who's returning after 14 > >> years of wandering might be just what I need to make myself useful in > >> this regard. I know that David Lewis is also interested in seeing the > >> MVC system a viable option for development again (IIRC he fixed some > >> serious problems with the > >> debugger,) > >> and I imagine that at least some of the Seaside folks would love to > >> drop the overhead of Morphic from their servers. > >> > >> I'm moving this conversation to squeak-dev, as it's more about > >> remodelling and redecorating a part of the core of Squeak and less > >> about using it in general. If you aren't subscribed there, you should > >> be, or you'll end up in the moderator's queue, which can take a > >> (relatively) longish time to turn around. > >> > >> If the community doesn't take the bait, feel free to contact me > >> offline. > >> Maybe there's a common point of interest and we can team up. > >> > >> --Casey Ransberger > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Mayuresh Kathe <mayur...@kathe.in> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> hello, > >>> > >>> i am returning to squeak after a gap of 14 years. > >>> back then, i used to work only within the 'mvc' environment as > >>> morphic hadn't taken off the way it has now. > >>> > >>> i still prefer the simplicity and lightness of the 'mvc' environment. > >>> > >>> at last use, the 'mvc' environment felt quite sluggish and crashed > >>> my squeak session multiple times. > >>> hope all is well! > >>> > >>> ~mayuresh > >>> > >>> ps: if boris gaertner is still around, could he please mail me > >>> off-list! > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Beginners mailing list > >>> Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners > >>> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Beginners mailing list > > Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list > Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners