Hi Eric,
my two cents on this:
Squeak has few resources nowadays and nobody (including me) has
continued to work on these things.
For me the big breakdown was that project save broke in 4.5.
The big plus of Squeak for me is it's backwards compatibility. So I
develop in 4.4 and if I need the speed of the new VM I just deploy it on
5.0. This is for example all my Raspberry Pi work.
I did a lot of work in 3.8 which afaik has all the toys you mention and
some development tools I like. Basically with todays computers it runs
fast as lightning compared to then. You'll need to find the latest
interpreter (non cog, non spur) VM, I'll happily mail you the one I'm
using. I assume I could just take the mcz's (Monticello) and load them
in a current Squeak to run them. Maybe I'll do that shortly when I
revisit my neural networks stuff.
Bottom line:
I'm happy Squeak makes the great progress (imho) it makes and I have to
compensate for the losses unless I'm willing to do the work. I suggest
you try a 3.8 image to find your toys and do new stuff in 5.0 unless you
need to save projects across images. If so, 4.4 is the latest one.
Squeak incl. 5.0 is such a great environment to be working in!
Cheers,
Herbert
Am 14.10.2015 um 16:46 schrieb Eric Scharff:
I was an active Squeak user around 10 years ago, but (I admit
sheepishly) I disappeared.
I went to rediscover Squeak and downloaded a 4.6 image, but found that
many of the toys I wanted to play with are no longer part of the
standard image such as:
* Freecell
* The Piano Keyboard morph and the Piano Roll midi reader/editor
* The chess game
I guess I could download an older image, but are any of these
available in a more recent version of Squeak? Would a Squeak 3.2 image
even work properly on a new VM? I'd bet there would be some plugin
version mismatches...
I opened up SqueakMap, clicked "Update", and saw a whole lot of
packages, but I clearly don't understand the UI. If these packages
were available somewhere, I couldn't figure out how to use it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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