Works great Thank you for the link ;~)) igor
On Tue, Dec 16, 2025 at 9:00 PM Scott Gibson <[email protected]> wrote: > I am not sure if this provides the solution you are looking for, but you > can successfully run Etoys on SqueakJS directly from your browser at > https://squeak.js.org/etoys/ . There, it appears to have no full screen > or lagging mouse issue. > > Thanks! > Scott > > On 12/16/25 21:00, [email protected] wrote: > > This might not be applicable to this group, but I don't think my message > went through on the Etoys mailing group and I'm fairly certain all support > for Etoys is gone. I've looked through all the affiliated links, most only > exist on the Internet Archive, which is my evidence for the statement. > > > > That said, there's a ghost of Etoys in Squeak and I'm hoping my question > might have an answer here. > > > > When running the widely available Etoys distribution for Linux (I > installed it via the Linux Mint repot), there seems to be a universal issue > regardless of the distro that I am not sure how to solve and that's when > the mouse is idle, running scripts slow down. I've tried a few settings in > preferences (I usually immediately check the 'higher performance' box on > any perception of 'wonky performance' I notice early on when working on a > project) and cannot seem to figure out what is causing the issue. > > > > To create this situation, simply make make a rectangle, and drop a 'turn > by' and 'move by' tile into a scriptor. Set the ticker speed to 100 ticks > per second and turn it on, setting the little rectangle into an endless > spin. Move the mouse and watch it. Stop moving the mouse and notice the > ticker speed loses accuracy and slows WAY down. And it's entirely > dependent on the mouse input. > > > > Another general VM functionality bug I found... > > > > ...when going full screen, I think the VM is detecting the physical > display and not the actual resolution available to it from the OS. How it > bypasses the OS, I'm not sure, maybe an age of the software issue? The > result is that going between full screen and windowed causes massive > display errors too numerous to explain, but they range from Etoys VM > crashing to full screen extending far beyond the actual set resolution of > the computer. I've not used the Mac version but I've not had either of > these issues for Windows and I'm wondering if there's a VM option when > compiling from source (I've not been successful here, but I can be > bullheaded until something works if necessary) or, more desireably, a VM > that already runs on Linux that doesn't have these problems. > > > > Thanks for any input. Honestly, for me, the real thing I'd like is for > Etoys implementation in Squeak to work as it does in Etoys so the VM's keep > up with the never-stable OS landscape, but as I understand it, the > ambassador for this project is, sadly, no longer with us. I use Etoys > because I'm not a math person and programming things for serious is a > laughable ask to expect from me, and so I cling to it, despite the lack of > support. > > > > At any rate, I don't know where to ask questions and because Etoys is > based on old squeak and it's in smalltalk, I figured with that project in > statis, this might be a logical place to ask. > > > > Primarily, the mouse moving affecting scripts speed is far more dire to > my project than the resolution issues. They're negligable if not > solved...an inconvenience. The script timing is extremely detrimental to > my work. > > > > I apologize if the question is beyond the scope of help in this group. > > Thanks for reading. > > > > p.s. The real solution, I suppose, is learning smalltalk, but frankly, > I've not figured out on my own how etoys translates to smalltalk despite > the script-to-text because the real syntax of smalltalk is far > more...fluid, shall we say...There's lots of similarities I've found poking > through the Etoys classes, but tracking out the bits to figure out how the > picture is made and further more constructing bits to make a picture is not > clear...anyway...just thought I'd state that I'd RATHER use squeak, but for > whatever reason, the books I have didn't tickle my brain the correct way > and Etoys is just more fun anyway... :P > > _______________________________________________ > > Beginners mailing list -- [email protected] > > To unsubscribe send an email to > [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >
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