On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:51 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > On May 11, 2011, at 4:26 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > >>> I wonder what you urgently need that isn't in 5.8.8? Yes, 5.10/5.12 has >>> a few nice things in it, but nothing life-changing. >> >> I suppose the biggest things aren't really language features as such. >> 5.14.0 will very shortly be released. That will also mark the end of >> official developer support for 5.10.x, let alone 5.8.x. This is >> probably most important should any security problems be found. >
any 'unix' distro that says they support their system for a year and a half to two years will support your perl. in fact, generally these same people are amongst the core perl devs. so i don't think they'd let official perl support for a version drop that they've got in an environment with service contracts. > Excellent response, as well as all the others. Bottom line for me is > that I'm just tired of Perl being treated like the ugly stepchild. Whenever > I talk about our script, once people hear that it's written in Perl, they > usually just say, "Oh...". Then the next question inevitably is "Why don't > you write it in PHP?" > who cares? my response would be 'if you do it better in php, and you get the same ab results as me, i'll roll with that'. my only issue with php is that they break things between versions and people think they can write a quick and dirty web app and put the most insecure peace of shit up. and i don't think it has a very fast / robust parser (?) but, tons of smart people write python (i don't because i don't like their parser). and ruby is pretty slick too. > I'm sure everyone here is well aware that, in some circles, Perl has > gotten a reputation of being a dying language and I believe that hosting > companies are partly to blame. Heck, A2 hardly even mentioned Perl on their > website until I finally got ahold of a sympathetic ear there back in 2007. > i've read some statements by some unknowledgeable people. however, there is nothing that any other language has that perl doesn't.... ah java has some interesting modules, but i can't stand java, so... > One more thing: I was just told that cPanel, which is written in Perl, is > stuck at 5.8.8. If that's true, then that could be the cause of a lot of > hosts only offering 5.8.8. Since cPanel is so popular, maybe they should be > prodded to upgrade. > what do you mean 'stuck'? what does any newer version of perl (besides 6 - which will break most things) has that you need? here, i'll start your list off: * given / when ... anything else? besides, it's not like cPanel (or anything else) can't tell perl to 'use 5.8.8;' - so what is the point? i think you've sat down wrong and are just not liking older (better tested) versions of program? i'm looking for a solid reason for you to want a newer version - i'm doing modperl and i could remove 30 lines with this feature, i've benchmarked my application of these two versions and gotten x speed improvement, i'm running into cpan dependency hell because this module said it needs >5.8, something? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] http://learn.perl.org/
