According to Amazon the Perl black book is out of print. :( you got me all hyped about checking it out :)
> -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Muey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:12 AM > To: Dylan Boudreau; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Perl book > > > > I'd say go to the library then and check out some books > ( have them get them other libraries if they don't have them > ) and when you find one you jive with go buy it. > > I love 'The Black Book of Perl' and have learned most all > I do from it and I to do a lot of Unix Administration. > > One reason I didn't jive real great with the O'reilly books > is that the ones I > Had available to me where sort of vague while being > desciptive at the same time Especially with modules. > > Example : > > Page 114 of 'Perl in a Nutshell' > > It is describing the pack function and does so quite well and > informative like. But if I'd never used pack before I'd have > no idea what it is for. How am I supposed to understand what > 'taking a list of values and packing it in a binary > structure' is supposed to mean if I've never come across it before. > > There are no examples of situations you might use this or > samples of usage beside at the top > > It has > Pack template, list > > Then explains what pack does and what template and list are > but how do you know if you are supposed to do > > pack($template, @list); > Or exactly like they have it > pack $template, $list; > Or both or can I do > Pack abBA, list > > Or only one character where template is? > > And I can see that for template I might use any number of > things a,A,b,B, etc and I can even see what they mean a - An > ASCCI string, will be null padded. > > That's a great reminder if you've used this before and > understand what 'An ASCCI string, will be null padded' means. > What is list, an array or a string? What can it be, a file, > input, what good would you get from using pack? > > Why not thrown in : > You may want to use pack if you are ..... > > And have at least one example > $value = "Example Of actual data you might want to use in > pack"; pack(a, $value); > > This would return ... So that you could ... > > So, to me, these books are much like Microsoft Tech Support : > There was a helicopter flying in Seattle and it became too > foggy to see. Desperatley tring to find out where they were > the pilot yelled out of the window to some people in a > building nearby ," We're lost! Where are we?" and the people > said, "You're in a helicopter!". The helicopter landed safely > and the crew asked how the pilot knew where to go based on > what those people said and he replied, "Well, I knew we were > by the Microsfot building because their answer was > technically correct but completely useless. ". > > So basically are the Orielly books I;ve seen good books. You > bet, they are informative and acurate but they are very > difficult to learn new stuff from! > So instead of learning something new it kind of makes you > avoid learning new stuff because then you have to > ask a list what this or that means and risk a pummeling at > the ignorance you've shown! > > I'd take one for free but I wouldn't pay for it. > > But that's just me. > > Dan > > > I am a network administrator maintaining strictly Unix boxes > > of some type or another. I want to become as proficient at > > Perl as I possibly can because I see scripting as the week > > point on my resume. I have the Oreilly book "Perl for System > > Administrators" but I want to read another book before I get > > in to that one so I have a good base. > > > > I think the main thing I want to get out of the next book is > > more familiarity with modules because Learning Perl doesn't > > really cover them well at all. > > > > Dylan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dan Muey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: January 15, 2003 11:32 AM > > To: Dylan Boudreau; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Perl book > > > > > > The black books are very nice. I like them better than the > > Orielly ones. > > > > Not to start a flame war, I just like em better. > > > > Also there's the 'using perl' for specifci jobs, system > > admin, web programming, database, algorythms, etc > > > > Can't remember the publisher off hand, sorry. > > > > Depends on what you want to use perl for now that you've done > > Learning Perl. > > > > You could do one of my favorite things and go into Barnes and > > Noble and read all of them, or check them out form the > > library and start it and if you don't like it take it back > > and get another!! > > > > Basically you can't go wrong with anything perl!!! > > > > Dan > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dylan Boudreau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:06 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Perl book > > > > > > > > > I have already read Learning Perl and am looking to get > > another book > > > to learn more what would people recommend? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Dylan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
