I'm afraid to use `ls -al` now because unix sytems may vary. I'm going to try the module suggested: http://search.cpan.org/author/MJD/Stat-lsMode-0.50
and insert the $^O to test for windows or unix. Then to test for windows permissions I can just use -r and -w, right? Somehow I would have to pack Stat-lsMode into my software. I'm hoping that will be as easy as putting the pm file in the same cgi directory. I have alot more to read about user permissions for unix. But I'm going give what I've learned so far time to sink in. Thanks again, Tricia