-----Original Message-----
From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Maryns
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 5:58 PM
To: beginners@perl.org
Subject: [Released] [Contains offensive content] Re: Tie::File problem (or
is it just me?)

John W. Krahn schreef:
> Hendrik Maryns wrote:
> 
>> Kevin Horton schreef:
>>
>>>
>>> What kind of line endings does the file have?  If I recall 
>>> correctly, I ran into a problem where perl did not recognize 
>>> classical Macintosh line endings as ending a line.  It thought the 
>>> whole file was one line, until I converted the line endings to Unix
format.
>>
>>
>> That must be the problem!  I work on WinXP (for the moment).  The 
>> file is generated by ChatZilla, the IRC chat program part of the 
>> Mozilla suite.  I don't know what kind of line endings it uses, how 
>> can I see this?
> 
> 
> According to RFC 1459:
> 
>    IRC messages are always lines of characters terminated with a CR-LF
>    (Carriage Return - Line Feed) pair, and these messages shall not
>    exceed 512 characters in length, counting all characters including
>    the trailing CR-LF. Thus, there are 510 characters maximum allowed
>    for the command and its parameters.  There is no provision for
>    continuation message lines.  See section 7 for more details about
>    current implementations.
> 
> 
> However when you save that data to a file the line endings are 
> determined by the application that saves that data and to some extent 
> by the operating system.

I do understand, but is there a trick in Windows to get to see which chars
are used as newline chars in a particular file, i.e. to show ASCII chars?

Thanks for your help on splice and -i, I understand now!

H.

########

The only one I know comes with that fine editor TextPad, which you can
download for trial for free from www.textpad.com, or even pay for, I think
maybe about 30 USD.

Use Ctrl O, then under File Format in the new window, choose "Binary", and
"Open" and inspect to your heart's content!

HTH, rgds, GStC.

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