Manish Chakravarty wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>
> my two cents:
>
>
>     *How easily can a new developer join the BeleniX project?
>      - We'll be moving to SFE.. where will the belenix sources be hosted?
>      - Are we setting up rules to give contributor status?
>      - Is there a need for a constitution for the belenix community?
>
>     *Building BeleniX
>      - We had discussed checking the performance of a gcc-built belenix
>     prototype and going ahead with it. Is this still in the plans?
>      This was discussed due to the inablity to redistribute Sun Studio
>     freely. It's currently only freely downloadable. 
>
>
> I we cant redistribute BeleniX freely. But there is no problem in 
> distributing binaries compiled from Sun Studio.

   BeleniX is freely re-distributable. We had an intention to bundle SUN 
Studio
   with BeleniX but, SUN Studio can't be re-distributed. Essentially the 
point
   is the toolchain used to build BeleniX components is not completely free.

   However a gcc-built BeleniX distro from ground up is a massive 
proposition
   requiring a complete distro-specific build system and a separately 
maintained
   package repository. It is not practical given the limited resources 
of the BeleniX
   team.

   Rather it will be practical to base as much of BeleniX work based on 
existing
   community effort as possible. Leverage off Indiana and existing Pkg 
repositories
   etc. will avoid having to separately maintain a complete distro stack 
and better
   participate in OpenSolaris community developments and contributions.

>
> How about we try a quick and dirty build of KDE4 on belenix?
> It already builds well on S10.
> I am upbeat about KDE4 because KBE ( the build system) is designed to 
> work on S10, has very few requirements (it pulls all the stuff it 
> needs from the net ) and should work without a problem
> I would be interested in trying this out.

   Fantastic. There will be a Native Zone based build environment available
   for BeleniX quite soon, based off the distro constructor. I will send 
out a
   notification once that is available for download on Genunix.

   In the meantime I am getting KDE3 spec files into the SFE repository. 
These
   are gcc-built and I am quite happy with the performance I am getting. 
I am
   on KDE 3.5.8 right now and it's stable.

>
> Since the build system is being migrated to .spec files, we would end 
> up with a scenario like
>
> ON ==> OpenSolaris
> X ==> OpenSolaris

   The plan is to pull all OpenSolaris consolidations and community 
contributions
   from pkg.opensolaris.org saving a huge amount of effort. Whatever is 
not on
   pkg.opensolaris.org is to be built out of SFE which includes the KDE 
stuff
   below.

   In the longer run the intention is to have a pkg.belenix.org that is 
synced up with
   pkg.opensolaris.org and contains additional packages, some 
BeleniX-specific.

> KDE ==> SpecFiles
> other Software ==> SFE
>
> Which would reduce effort required for maintenance , help us 
> concentrate on the branding, look and feel and general end-user 
> experience of belenix.
>
> How does this sound?

   Precisely. That is the intention to leverage OpenSolaris community 
efforts
   as much as possible and concentrate on value-addition.

>
> Can I have a copy of the belenix sources in the next BOSUG meet? Let 
> me try and build KDE4 on this. May be "borrow" a few Sabayon tricks 
> for belenix?

   Sure.

>
>
>     *Website issues
>      - The website needs to be upgraded. How do we find new artwork.
>      - How good is the current bugs database?
>      - Can we have all the links resolve to belenix.org
>     <http://belenix.org>? (and not to
>     sarovar or genunix)
>
>     * An alpha release
>      -Can we have a quick alpha release before the 0.7? This could be
>     distributed minimally on the list and we can try it out on as many
>     different types of hardware to clean up issues that linger on after
>     release (like the math library issue in 0.6 and install issue in 0.6*)
>
>
> BeleniX 0.7 Alpha (or call it Belenix KDE4 Developer Preview ;) if you 
> so wish ) makes sense. Belenix is of course a KDE based distribution.
>
> Can we sync up at the next BOSUG meet? I'd like to take the last 
> Belenix build, put SunStudio and KBE on it and give KDE4 a try on Belenix.

   Better to use the Indiana environment since that is what BeleniX 0.7 
will be
   based on. Use distro constructor and rebuild a new Indiana ISO based off
   the current pkg repo. Glyn sent out instructions on how to setup a 
JDS CBE
   in Indiana, KBE should be no different.

>  
>
>
>     * Other topics?
>
> Let's take cues from Sabayon and make the end-user experience a little 
> more polished.

   Yes.

>
>
>     If you are willing to take up one of the tasks, join into this
>     discussion with your thoughts.
>

   One way to contribute to BeleniX right now is to contribute to the 
Spec Files Extra (SFE)
   repository. Add new packages to that or build and debug existing 
packages on Solaris
   Express or better Indiana.

Regards,
Moinak.

>
>     Regards
>     Anil
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