On Wednesday 16 November 2005 12:12, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > Jamil Ahmed wrote: > > Pls check the url and let us know your comments. > > http://www.bengalinux.org/new/ > > With Firefox 1.0.7 in en locale on RHEL4U2 I see this problem: > > When you click on the grey sidebar on the left to navigate to a > particular page, there is a small dotted extension of the segment that > is present for the duration of the click. > > Can someone tell me if this is a problem with my OS+application > environment or is this something that can be reproduced across OS ?
I see the problem on Konqueror too. > > Thanks to Salahuddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. > > Good work. Yes, great work. However, I have several questions and concerns: 1. Why? Why do we need this drastic a change? I see a few new features: (a) A login interface. Can anyone tell me what exactly it is that we would be able to do after logging in? Is this logging into sourceforge? There's a link to the SF project page for that, and in any case, I'm sure that can be done with the current setup as well. (b) Poll. Who cares? (c) How many people are logged in. Again, who cares? 2. Look Changing the look and feel of the site is a legitimate goal. However, that can be done with the current version just as well. If you have a browser that supports alternate stylesheets, go to www.ankurbangla.org and choose the 'Alternate Experimental Stylesheet' (on my firefox it's under 'View->Page Style'), or see the screenshot at http://www.stat.wisc.edu/~deepayan/ankur-alternate.png Note that this doesn't change one bit of the HTML/PHP, just the stylesheet. This is a crude first attempt, obviously it can be improved a lot by someone willing to spend some time on it. For a nice and less garish example, see http://www.mozilla.org/about/ 3. Underlying HTML content I really, really, really hate it when people use tables for formatting, or for anything except tabular data. This is almost as bad as using GIF images to render bengali. This used to be a valid approach in the days of Frontpage Express (just as using images to render bengali could have been justified in the days before unicode). Nowadays there is something called CSS. If you want to do web design, do it well; learn CSS. To give a relevant example, here is the HTML that sits behind the navigation bar in the current page: <div class="navbar"> <h2><a href="/"> Home </a></h2> <h2><a href="/bn/index.php">বাংলা পাতা</a></h2> <h2> General </h2> <p><a href="/projects/"> People & Projects </a> <p><a href="/documents/"> Documents </a> <p><a href="/downloads/"> Downloads </a> <p><a href="/contact.php"> Contact </a></p> <p><a href="/screenshots/"> Screenshots </a></p> <p><a href="/lists.php"> Mailing Lists </a></p> <h2> Miscellaneous </h2> <p><a href="http://sf.net/projects/bengalinux/";> SF.net project page </a></p> <p><a href="http://www.linux.org/";> Linux.org </a></p> <p><a href="/links.php"> Related Links </a></p> </div> and here is the (almost) same piece in the new version: <table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tr align="left"><td><a href="index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1" class="mainlevel" id="active_menu">Home</a></td></tr> <tr align="left"><td><a href="index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5&Itemid=6" class="mainlevel" >বাংলা পাতা</a></td></tr> <tr align="left"><td><a href="index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=4&id=22&Itemid=29" class="mainlevel" >Projects</a></td></tr> <tr align="left"><td><a href="index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=33" class="mainlevel" >People</a></td></tr> <tr align="left"><td><a href="index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=5&id=14&Itemid=26" class="mainlevel" >Documents</a></td></tr> <tr align="left"><td><a href="index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32&Itemid=32" class="mainlevel" >Downloads</a></td></tr> <tr align="left"><td><a href="index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=33&Itemid=34" class="mainlevel" >Screenshots</a></td></tr> <tr align="left"><td><a href="index.php?option=com_contact&Itemid=3" class="mainlevel" >Contact Us</a></td></tr> <tr align="left"><td><a href="index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=15&Itemid=28" class="mainlevel" >Mailing Lists</a></td></tr> <tr align="left"><td><a href="index.php?option=com_search&Itemid=5" class="mainlevel" >Search</a></td></tr> <tr align="left"><td><a href="index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=1&id=1&Itemid=35" class="mainlevel" >News</a></td></tr> </table> </div> <div class="moduletable"> <table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tr align="left"><td><a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/bengalinux/"; target="_blank" class="mainlevel" >SF.net Project Page</a></td></tr> </table> What does something this horribly complicated and completely unreadable gain us? To say nothing of the fact that the whole page is formatted as a table. I have no idea how much of this is imposed by Joomla, so this is not necessarily a complaint against it. However, I have spent a lot of time 'fixing' the HTML in the current site, and I will be very disappointed to see it go back to using tables. 4. What to change? This is an honest question. If and when this new design is adopted, how does one go about changing the content on one of the pages? I couldn't find any obvious place where the content is hosted (changing the contents of the main page doesn't change anything in the new version). I hope there is some way to change things using a plain text editor like Emacs. This would of course be very difficult to do if the text formatting is messed up by Joomla. -Deepayan ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. 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