On 19/04/13 00:01, mathog wrote:
> High end SATA and SAS disks claim MTBF values that work out to over 100
> years, and yet it is a common
> observation that certain models fail at rates entirely inconsistent
> with those values. For instance,
> 75% of all drives of one model dead in < 6 years. (Cited by one poster
> in this thread:
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.unix.solaris/zQjoyc8T01Y
>
> ). Additionally, manufacturer warranties at best only go to 5 years,
> which suggests the manufacturers
> don't have a whole lot of faith in their MTBF values.
>
> Some of you have huge amounts of storage, how many disk models lasted
> as long as their MTBF suggests
> they should? (Personally we have only one set of disks that are still
> consistent with the claimed MTBF,
> a set of 6 Fibre Channel disks that came with a Sun server and are now
> 10 years old - with no failures.)
You may find this paper helpful, some of the data sets used in their studies
come from large HPC sites:
Bianca Schroeder, Garth A. Gibson
Understanding disk failure rates: What does an MTTF of 1,000,000 hours
mean to you?
http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=1288783.1288785
If you, or your institution, do not have access to the ACM publications, you
may be able to find a free copy posted by the authors, ACM does allow that :)
> How do they come up with the MTBF values for disks anyway? Clearly it
> is not based on watching a large
> sample of disks for countless years!
I can't remember if I have read it in the above paper or elsewhere that users
in the field tend to replace disks on the first signs of failure, e.g. SCSI
warnings, while manufacturers' tests may run
to total failure, which leads to claims of longer MTTF/MTBF values by the
manufacturers.
Cheers
Fred
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