Hi Lisa-Jayne, When you refer to "messes" are you talking about urination or defaecating?
If urination then she needs to take her to the vet for a urinalysis, very often a Urinary Tract Infection is the root cause for frequency of urination. If defaecating then she would be advise to take a stool sample into the vet's for analysis for parasites. If the bowel movements are normal in appearance then many factors need to be considered, if the puppy is fearful or intimidated by the owner ie being told off then she is doing this for pyschological reasons and your friend needs to back of from punishing her and just praise when she goes in the right place and ignore all accidents. If she appears to not know she is defaecating then she needs to be examined by the vet for physical problems. Generally housetraining is down to the owner and the biggest cause of failure is lack of routine. Hope this is helpful Rose -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: February 12, 2003 6:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BERNER-L digest 4267 Hi everyone, I have a friend who has a rotti that is almost 6 months old and not even close to being house trained, as training our BMD was really easy I have ran out of suggestions for her to try. Does anyone have any advice they could share with her. She has tried taking it out every hour on the hour but it just comes back in and when she turns her back it messes. It crys continously when put outside, even if she is standing with it. It is impossible to leave it alone in the garden for the whimping and crying noises it makes. I am no expert on these things and have never had to deal with anything like this so therefore am completely useless and can not offer her any help. She has tried buying a book with suggestions but still nothing is working, it seems that the dog just isn't interested in learning no matter what. She can be told off and while my friend is cleaning up one room will go straight to another room and mess. My friend could pop out for 5 minutes and while gone Bailey will off messed everywhere, even if she has just gone previously. As she is due to have a baby shortly it is getting a bit much for her. I have even tried having her at mine hoping she would learn from my girl but still messes which leaves my girl not slightly impressed. Any advice and Help would greatly be appreciated. Lisa-Jayne Kerray Kent, England.