I think that she was asking for experiences, both good and bad. That is the value of the Berner-l. My comment was not meant to upset you, just to broaden the discussion. Nancy Melone
-----Original Message----- From: Denise Vickers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Berner List Subject: Re: [Fwd: Invisable Fencing] Nancy, When I lived in a development I used IF on my Mel who was attacked by a stray Rhodesian Ridgeback that walked thru the IF. This stray, purebread dog, lived eight miles away in a different city! I do not denounce IF but, if someone has no other alternative but to install an IF, then they deffinately should hear the bad bad xperiences as well as the good. I am simply stating my experiences so that others can make a well informed determination on which type of fencing is best for their needs. - Denise Michigan USA Nancy wrote: > Subject: > RE: Invisable Fencing > From: > "Nancy Melone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: > Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:11:49 -0800 > To: > "Denise Vickers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Denise -- >In many cases, the problem when people inquire about IF is that they are not >allowed to erect a physical fence without violating their housing plan >rules. This problem is becoming more prevalent and so people are searching >for information on alternative ways to protect their dogs from auto injury >and roaming off premise in their neighborhoods. I live in such a >neighborhood -- my neighbors contain their dogs, so there is virtually no >problem with outside dogs roaming into our yards (it is against the law >anyway, so our development can easily enforce this should someone be a bit >lax -- a reminder letter usually does it). In addition, many people have IF >signs posted in the yard indicating that an IF is present. There are ways of >handling the situations that you describe and still use IF. What typically >dictates how one handles containing one's dog (physical fencing or in-ground >wire) are the constraints the individuals faces in their specific living >environment. I have done both and can tell you that both options involve >significant outlays of money when you are fencing multiple acres. >Nancy Melone > >-----Original Message----- >From: Denise Vickers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 3:58 PM >To: Berner List >Subject: Invisable Fencing > > > >Regarding invisible fencing. I do not have one, I have a physical >fence. I have almost 3 acres fenced - yes it is expensive and there is >maintenance, but I have piece of mind. Friends visit often bringing >their dogs over for a run off leach in a large, safe, fenced area. They >could not do this if I had a invisible fence for they would have to >train their dog on my invisible fence line with a shock collar - or keep >it leached up. I baby-sit my sisters and my parents dogs and no dogs >have ever escaped. My neighbors dogs who wander often can only pick a >fight through the fence. An invisible fence can be deceiving to >children, the postman and responsible adults. Most don't realize they >are in or near an invisible fence area until it is too late. Not all >dogs like children or adults for that matter, and not all people are >comfortable with dogs - especially unleashed dogs. Have you ever walked >through a neighborhood on a quite evening and had the poop scared out of >you when a barking, unleashed dog rushed the sidewalk only to stop four >feet from you for no apparent reason. Granted no harm was done but the >two year old in the stroller cried for several more blocks. > >-Denise >Michigan, USA > >