We had a keeshond who had this luxating patella, but the odd thing was that she only held her leg up when standing still and never limped. In fact, she could RUN with no problems for quite a while with this problem. The vet wanted to operate, but we made a decision not to. She had just taken 6 months at age 13 to recover from hip surgery which was certainly NOT optional and had just gotten out of her depression from that about a year before. She was 14 1/2 and lived another 1 1/2 years with this without any obvious pain or trouble. Eventually we euthanized her at 16 due to arthritis elsewhere - unrelated to her patella problem. It never seemed to cause her pain.
In addition, when I was a child, I remember we had a small dog with this (a heinz 57) which we never had operated on and it caused hardly any problem for her - no pain and she only limped VERY rarely. Seemed to be caused by jumping off a tall bed. Jill Kramer and Benny Baltimore, MD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 10:01 PM Subject: BERNER-L digest 4345 > BERNER-L Digest 4345 > > Topics covered in this issue include: > > 1) Re: BERNER-L digest 4342 > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 2) Re: BERNER-L digest 4340 > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 3) Re: momentary 'lameness' > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 4) Re: At what age . . .? > by "Michaela Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 5) Appenzeller question and the plane facts about 700 Vari Kennels > by "Lisa D Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 6) Puppy Issues > by "Kenneth L Babcock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 7) At what age? > by "Charles and Kay Sloate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 8) Re: Happy 10th Birthday to Indy! > by "Gail Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 9) Re: Appenzeller question > by Angela Wagenblast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 10) Tack Margareta!.... prayers needed for Griffin > by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Cecilia_St=E5hl?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 11) Limping Appy > by "Coral and David Denis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 12) Re: mast cell > by "Sara Steele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 13) Ceciliia and Griffin > by "Karen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 14) Berner Ravel v. Lloyd the Cat. > by "jean cheesman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 15) Re: BERNER-L digest 4344 > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 16) Another way to get extra tickets!!!...BETTER HURRY!!! > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 17) Re: momentary 'lameness' > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 18) Fun Survey > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 19) Mozart (1993-2003) > by "David Nowell and Susan Burnham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 20) A very nice game > by valerie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 21) accidents and pre heat behavior > by "Andrea Brin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 22) Moses' magical day > by "Lisa D Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 02:25:10 EST > Subject: Re: BERNER-L digest 4342 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_145.df93169.2bb6a456_boundary" > > > --part1_145.df93169.2bb6a456_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > We brought a beautiful boy Berner into our family 3 weeks ago. Zephyr has > spent 2 of the 3 weekends at the vet so far. He seems to be suffering from > HOD or panosteitis. Both weekends he has waited until Friday afternoon to > show symptoms, then by Saturday unable to walk. The first weekend was a > costly stay at the ER, the second brought the vet in to the office on a > Sunday. He seems to be doing well now, but at the last check his WBC count > was 34,000 (3 x higher than normal). We are worried about that and don't > yet have an explanation. > I would like to hear any experiences/ advise on HOD that anyone has. > Also, does anyone know where I could begin a search for a cart Zephyr could > pull my two kids around in when he gets bigger (which is happening by the > minute). They are 8 mo and 2.5 years, so not too heavy. I was wondering if > the carts and harnesses have to be custom made, or if there is a place I > could start looking. > Thanks, > Melissa and Zephyr (and Happy- Golden Retriever) > in Longmont CO > > --part1_145.df93169.2bb6a456_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * > * This post contains a forbidden message format * > * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * > * Mail Lists at Prairienet only accept PLAIN TEXT * > * If your postings display this message your mail program * > * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > --part1_145.df93169.2bb6a456_boundary-- > > ------------------------------ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 02:42:10 EST > Subject: Re: BERNER-L digest 4340 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6f.370aa19d.2bb6a852_boundary" > > > --part1_6f.370aa19d.2bb6a852_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > What is the "Good citizen test"? > What is the deal with Berners and eating stuff?? Is it just because they are > such big dogs? I am cracking up reading all of the post about things they > have eaten, how to get them to vomit, etc. I am new to the breed (and loving > it). Our 4 month old Berner Boy is remarkably good not to even pick up the > baby and kid toys we have strewn all over our house. I am just waiting for > him to gulp some items down like I have been reading. : ) > Melissa and Zephyr (4 months- "I love my bed, I love my bed, oh, shoot, you > washed it- now I must pee on it again") > Longmont, CO > > --part1_6f.370aa19d.2bb6a852_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * > * This post contains a forbidden message format * > * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * > * Mail Lists at Prairienet only accept PLAIN TEXT * > * If your postings display this message your mail program * > * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > --part1_6f.370aa19d.2bb6a852_boundary-- > > ------------------------------ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 04:48:57 EST > Subject: Re: momentary 'lameness' > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > In a message dated 3/28/2003 4:31:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > about twice or three times a week, my pup > > suddenly starts hobbling around with his right hind > > leg off the ground ... as if it were injured. But > > this only lasts a couple of minutes, sometimes even > > less than a minute. Then all of a sudden, he's > > playing and running around as usual. > > This sounds very typical of a luxating patella (ie: slipping kneecap). LP is > very common is many toy breeds but not unheard of in Bernese and other breeds > as well. > It can be caused by trauma or it can be hereditary. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * MESSAGE EXCEEDED PERMITTED LENGTH * * * * message truncated * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
