We have always had blowups for the same reason. When someone states that something being done is horrible, it causes extreme reactions. Nothing will get people riled up faster than to accuse them of doing things to hurt their dogs, or hurting Berners or dogs in general, for example: Crating is cruel. Kibble is poison, it's made up of dead pets with drugs in them. BARF is full of e-coli and salmonella. Buying dogs at auction is wrong.
We've seen these in the past, and we'll see it again. If you disagree with someone, find a positive way to disagree. For example: Instead of crating, I sleep alongside my dog and let it out whenever it moves. I've researched kibble extensively, and here is a list of articles that explain the contents and the source of the different foods. Have there been any studies done on the risk of e-coli and salmonella to dogs from eating raw foods? I'd very much like to learn more about that aspect of BARF. My efforts in reducing the exploitation of Berners has been to attend dog shows and spend time making newbies feel welcome and answering any questions they have. There are endless ways to have a discussion with a positive spin. No one will ever change anyone's mind by inflammatory statements that accuse them of ill-treating dogs. It puts them on the defensive, and gets people upset rather than getting them to think. It will also get you booted off the Berner-L faster than almost anything else. I hate to do that, but I have done it in the past and suspect that I will do it in the future. This List is a pleasant place. We have discussions, we don't accuse each other of vile things. We are sweet, and considerate. We are respectful of other people even if we don't agree with something they've said. I know that's hard. Trust me, I know that's hard. If someone sends you a private post that you find offensive, please forward it to me and I will try to find the appropriate action to be taken. Please do not forward it to the List. For those of you who are new, we have these spats every now and then, I'm afraid we've been long overdue. We have many people from all over the world. Different cultures view aspects of dog ownership very differently. Finding ways to share those different aspects without being aggressive, well, that's the challenge. And I know it's not always easy. Thank you to everyone who makes the effort to do so. I know that I do appreciate learning how different people handle aspects of dog ownership, breeding, rescue, training, feeding, etc. And I'm sure many others do as well. Pat Long, Berner-L Co-Owner Berwyn PA