> I do not like PennHip for determining orthopedics for the same reaons
> Dawn stated - it doesn't help with the issue of elbows.

This breeding discussion is very interesting to non-breeders like me.  I
have also found previous discussions about OFA vs PennHIP interesting.  I
just had my 2 year old BARC girl evaluated by both OFA and PennHIP.  It was
not required by BARC, but I wanted the information for myself.  Halley has
OFA "fair" hips.  1 xray view.  Her PennHIP scores were in the 10th
percentile as compared to Bernese Mountain Dogs.  3 xray views.  This means
that 90% of Berners have better hips than she has.  PennHIP also tells me
she has no evidence of DJD.  So, as a "novice" what do I think?  That
PennHIP has given me more information about my dogs hips.  Would a breeder
breed a dog with OFA "fair" hips?  Perhaps, given the other factors that
weigh in.  Would a  breeder breed a dog with hips that are in the 10th
percentile for BMD's?  I think that in a breed with the incidence of HD that
Berner's have, that the 10th percentile is pretty risky.  I feel her PennHip
ratings are more accurate and give me more information.  If elbow xrays are
necessary as well, so be it.  It is the cost of owning a Berner.

My Halley-Storm does agility training, runs like the wind and leaps like a
kangaroo.  I am happy to spend money on gaining knowlege on my dogs.  BARC
pet dog, whatever.  I like to know what I am dealing with and what my dog
may need now to help her in the future.

Janice Parky
Halley and Wrigley
Cape Cod, MA

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