Maybe I am mistaken about the use of jbreak and it's purpose but this does not 
break:

(]^:9e9) 1

Nor does the script I have to run that takes about 5 minutes to complete.

>From: Eric Iverson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Thu May 11 17:12:42 CDT 2006
>To: Beta forum <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [Jbeta] RE: Tardy graphics

>How is jbreak 601 not working? Have you studied the doc in the User Manual 
>on 'Interrupt Execution'? Verify with some very simple tests that the basic 
>mechanism works in simple cases. For example, create a script with a verb 
>that does a while loop that will run for 10 seconds or so and then test 
>whether clicking the yellow J icon interrupts execution or not. Most J 
>programs can be interrupted fairly promptly. There are some long running 
>executions that are very localized and don't check for break, but I would be 
>surprised if that were the case for the general problem you report.
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Thomas Costigliola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 1:20 PM
>Subject: [Jbeta] RE: Tardy graphics
>
>
>> Regarding the thread "Tardy graphics" (Pasted below).
>>
>> I am having the same problems and am looking into solutions. Eric suggests 
>> to put the execution and UI in seperate threads. Any chance of a J 
>> threading library in the future?
>>
>> Also, I read that these changes have to do with the new jbreak facility. I 
>> must say that frankly the new jbreak facility does not work for me. The 
>> documention says to send the signal twice to break execution immediately. 
>> However, it takes between 30 seconds and 1.5 minute for the first instance 
>> to execute when I click the jbreak icon in my 'quick launch'. And when I 
>> am finally able to click it again my J window does not repaint itself and 
>> breaks only after 3 to 5 minutes of waiting (if at all). It seems like 
>> there is a lot more work to break in J6 where in J5 all I had to do was 
>> hit ctrl+break.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>=====================================
>>>
>>>
>>>There are significant changes in the area of windows message handling in
>>>601. These change were enabled by the change to how break is handled but
>>>were driven by a desire to simplify the front end and make it more 
>>>portable.
>>>
>>>In 504 the J Engine when running periodically and frequently polled the
>>>front end with a callback. The callback dispatched windows messages in the
>>>front end. The main purpose of dispatching the messages was to enable
>>>detection of break signals (Ctrl+break etc in windows forms). The 
>>>secondary
>>>effect was that messages such as requesting a repaint of a window that was
>>>uncovered were also handled. But messages that could cause important state
>>>change or require signalling J events were filitered out and discarded. 
>>>This
>>>code was very messy and complicated, was quite against the spirit of the
>>>windows api, and has been a continual source of subtle and nasty bugs.
>>>
>>>Trying to provide this same behavior with the Java based front end in Unix
>>>was a serious complication and combined with early problems with the Java
>>>use of shared libraries drove the decision to have the Java front end
>>>communicate with a separate J Engine through sockets. With 601 we wanted 
>>>to
>>>move the Java front end to use the more direct and far more efficient J
>>>Engine as a shared library, but this was far easier if the dispatch of
>>>messages while J was in execution was abandoned.
>>>
>>>These changes mean that the more common GUI applications where the J 
>>>Engine
>>>runs for only a short time (several seconds) are simpler, faster, more
>>>reliable, and more portable.
>>>
>>>But those benefits have the drawback that applications like yours (where
>>>there is GUI combined wth very long running J Engine sentences) suffer.
>>>
>>>Possibly an acceptable crude workaround for your current situation is to
>>>mark the form with the status line with ptop so that it can't get
>>>covered/uncovered (which won't get repainted properly until the J Engine
>>>goes idle).
>>>
>>>If that doesn't work because the form is big and takes up too much screen
>>>space with ptop, then you could move the status line to another form and
>>>make it ptop.
>>>
>>>The long term solution is to move the long running computation to a 
>>>separate
>>>thread or process. Starting from scratch this is probably the better and
>>>easier way to build the app. But as a conversion it can be very nasty. The
>>>idea is to break the app in two parts with clean lines between them. One
>>>part does the computation and has very little user interface. The other 
>>>part
>>>has all the GUI and stays responsive.
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "Henry Rich" <HenryHRich at nc.rr.com>
>>>To: "'Beta forum'" <beta at jsoftware.com>
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:23 PM
>>>Subject: [Jbeta] Tardy graphics
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have an application that keeps a big form displayed, the last line
>>>> of which is a static control that I use as a status line.  When the
>>>> program goes into a long computation, every few seconds it updates the
>>>> status line.  I use wd 'tnomsgs 1'.
>>>>
>>>> In 5.04, the status line was drawn whenever I wrote to it.  In 6.01,
>>>> the behavior is more complex and less satisfactory:
>>>>
>>>> Generally, I don't see the status lines as they are written by the
>>>> program.
>>>> The program writes the form first thing, and then immediately launches
>>>> an Internet Explorer window that covers the form.  I immediately
>>>> minimize the IE windows (by hand), exposing the form; but the form is
>>>> all white, as if it has not been drawn.  Meanwhile the program is
>>>> displaying
>>>> status, but I don't see it.
>>>>
>>>> In one case I had the form partially covered by another window, and when
>>>> I minimized the covering window the underlying form appeared; but then
>>>> in a moment the uncovered pixels vanished, replaced by white, just where
>>>> the
>>>> previously-covering window had been.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, what I want is to have my status show up, something that used to
>>>> happen automatically.  Is there somthing like pshow'' that I can do, or
>>>> does the J code need to change?
>>>>
>>>> Henry Rich
>>>>
>>
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