It _had been_ discussed several times at least. Starting from discussion in #lbendercoders between me, Dan, Bastien and even Ton. Then once it was all set up (and i believe some discussion happened in the ML as well). Once all the changes to the infrastructure were done it was announced in the ML: http://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-committers/2014-July/043948.html In such a situation it's real weird to have a post-factum "it should have never been done this way".
As an addition to the previous suggestion: - We can as well just put a REAL HUGE BANNER on top of the experimental builds just to stress once again that they're experimental if it'll be considered useful to have those builds listed to public. - We can rename "testbuild" to something like "devbuild" (as developer-build) or "experimental" to prevent possible confusion with the testbuilds being done as a part of the release build. On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Ton Roosendaal <t...@blender.org> wrote: > Hi Bastien, > > Sorry, I've asked around and had the impression Sergey added the feature > on builder.blender.org. > > The fact that building branches on buildbot is useful is not disputed. > It's just not acceptable to offer an official build for download on a > popular page on blender.org, with unknown patches or branches applied. > > Let's just keep the lines short and discuss decisions like this together > well? > > Laters, > > -Ton- > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Ton Roosendaal - t...@blender.org - www.blender.org > Chairman Blender Foundation - Producer Blender Institute > Entrepotdok 57A - 1018AD Amsterdam - The Netherlands > > > > On 11 Oct, 2014, at 18:24, Bastien Montagne wrote: > > > I’m not happy at all with both the decision and the way it was taken. > > Fyi, I was the one who spent a fair amount of time some months agon > > setting this up, and I think it has proven to be really really useful > > for all wip projects around. > > > > Further more, I do not see any reason to just cut this out out of the > > blue, there was no urgency at all here. And I do not even really > > understand the root of the issue, imho people who are not able to make a > > distinction between builds tagged as 'official' and builds tagged as > > 'testbuild' have nothing to do on builder.b.o. > > > > But even though, imho it would have been much nicer to ask to add some > > way to delete testbuilds from the server, again see no urgency at all > > here that could justify this discontinuation. > > > > Adding back build of all branches will just create much much more mess, > > we won’t gain anything. Oh, and people that cannot understand what > > 'testbuild' means won’t be able either to distinguish from master and > > branches builds - even less I’d say. > > > > Very disapointed here! > > Bastien > > > > Le 11/10/2014 15:59, Ton Roosendaal a écrit : > >> Hi, > >> > >> I've asked Sergey to disable the testbuild branch from automatic > building. > >> This is currently leading to a confusing situation. People have no idea > what's the code that is in it. It's even being used to apply patches from > the tracker on it. This information is invisible for our website visitors. > >> > >> Worse is that visitors think it's the official release test build, and > not a testing branch for coders only. > >> > >> We should do this better communicated. Can we just back to the old > option that you can build branches? > >> This way that branch build gets properly named and timestamped. > >> > >> The only problem is that too many builds might flood the bot's list of > builds. It shouldn't be too hard to make a delete button on that page for > old ones (for admins)? > >> > >> Laters, > >> > >> -Ton- > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------------- > >> Ton Roosendaal - t...@blender.org - www.blender.org > >> Chairman Blender Foundation - Producer Blender Institute > >> Entrepotdok 57A - 1018AD Amsterdam - The Netherlands > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Bf-committers mailing list > >> Bf-committers@blender.org > >> http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bf-committers mailing list > > Bf-committers@blender.org > > http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers > > _______________________________________________ > Bf-committers mailing list > Bf-committers@blender.org > http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers > -- With best regards, Sergey Sharybin _______________________________________________ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers