I merely browse the reddit link, because it seems they cover a very broad topic considering the original question is quite big in scope.
Anyway, to focus on UI issue - I wonder if it a workflow thing more than UI itself. I received my Diploma on MAX 4.0, and unable to afford it (and never work in the industry either) I just use whatever free app provided on 3D World cover disk. (Carrara was my favourite back then). Then Modo 401 and now on Modo Indie subs. I also uses Daz3D as human character generator (kind of). I understand how some people feel. I use Iclone from 3.0 to 4.0 (and monitoring it since 1.0) and I don't understand why they don't adapt 4 window like normal 3d app (top, left/right, front, perspective). Looking at IClone 6.0 screenshot, seems like still unavailable. I guess that what happened when you used to such workflow. But in the end, some app have their own workflow and the GUI to support it. And of course, Blender being open, people can contribute. Although that -save-before-exit-bru-ha-ha still in the back of my mind :-P On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 6:00 PM, <bf-committers-requ...@blender.org> wrote: > Send Bf-committers mailing list submissions to > bf-committers@blender.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > bf-committers-requ...@blender.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > bf-committers-ow...@blender.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Bf-committers digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Current state of Blender's user experience (Daniel Stokes) > 2. Re: Current state of Blender's user experience (Pawe? ?yczkowski) > 3. Re: Current state of Blender's user experience (Daniel Stokes) > 4. Re: Current state of Blender's user experience (Ton Roosendaal) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 15:07:36 -0700 > From: Daniel Stokes <kupom...@gmail.com> > Subject: [Bf-committers] Current state of Blender's user experience > To: bf-blender developers <bf-committers@blender.org> > Message-ID: > <CAPeMK8buA1uf664_J=0RWH= > 6j62suo6k+xxqueqy8mopscp...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Greetings, > > I recently came across this thread on the gamedev sub Reddit: > > https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/4fs4db/why_dont_more_professional_game_studios_use_free/ > > > In that thread are several unfavorable opinions about Blender, mostly about > its UI/UX. I thought we had moved past the opinion of Blender's UI being > terrible during the 2.5 time frame, so I was a bit surprised to see several > complaints about it. Unfortunately, there are not a lot of specific > complaints other than "it is not the same as Maya/Max". > > I was curious what others on this mailing list thought about the current > state of Blender's user experience, if something should be done to improve > it, and what could be done to improve it. > > Regards, > Daniel Stokes > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 22:28:44 +0000 > From: Pawe? ?yczkowski <pawellyczkow...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] Current state of Blender's user > experience > To: bf-blender developers <bf-committers@blender.org> > Message-ID: > < > ca+vyyuk3s3q_zyxzrh5fof8vb-915y1ucjcvit_o34ajtbt...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > if something should be done to improve it, and what could be done to > improve it. > > Here are some links to get you started: > > https://developer.blender.org/project/profile/12/ > https://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:Ref/Proposals/UI > https://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:2.8/Proposals > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ScPMbHv8WRCU2znB7IU2l-W9hH-NLs5weQKLkjqmgpA/edit > > http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?298932-Blender-UI-Mockups-and-Ideas-Requested > https://rightclickselect.com/p/ui > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 12:07 AM Daniel Stokes <kupom...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Greetings, > > > > I recently came across this thread on the gamedev sub Reddit: > > > > > https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/4fs4db/why_dont_more_professional_game_studios_use_free/ > > > > > > In that thread are several unfavorable opinions about Blender, mostly > about > > its UI/UX. I thought we had moved past the opinion of Blender's UI being > > terrible during the 2.5 time frame, so I was a bit surprised to see > several > > complaints about it. Unfortunately, there are not a lot of specific > > complaints other than "it is not the same as Maya/Max". > > > > I was curious what others on this mailing list thought about the current > > state of Blender's user experience, if something should be done to > improve > > it, and what could be done to improve it. > > > > Regards, > > Daniel Stokes > > _______________________________________________ > > Bf-committers mailing list > > Bf-committers@blender.org > > https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 16:49:29 -0700 > From: Daniel Stokes <kupom...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] Current state of Blender's user > experience > To: bf-blender developers <bf-committers@blender.org> > Message-ID: > < > capemk8ax-mus6m0n9omyoaewymr8w7jm3gaes-jc3qmd3kf...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Looks like I have some reading to do, thanks for the links. > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Pawe? ?yczkowski < > pawellyczkow...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > > if something should be done to improve it, and what could be done to > > improve it. > > > > Here are some links to get you started: > > > > https://developer.blender.org/project/profile/12/ > > https://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:Ref/Proposals/UI > > https://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:2.8/Proposals > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ScPMbHv8WRCU2znB7IU2l-W9hH-NLs5weQKLkjqmgpA/edit > > > > > http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?298932-Blender-UI-Mockups-and-Ideas-Requested > > https://rightclickselect.com/p/ui > > > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 12:07 AM Daniel Stokes <kupom...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > I recently came across this thread on the gamedev sub Reddit: > > > > > > > > > https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/4fs4db/why_dont_more_professional_game_studios_use_free/ > > > > > > > > > In that thread are several unfavorable opinions about Blender, mostly > > about > > > its UI/UX. I thought we had moved past the opinion of Blender's UI > being > > > terrible during the 2.5 time frame, so I was a bit surprised to see > > several > > > complaints about it. Unfortunately, there are not a lot of specific > > > complaints other than "it is not the same as Maya/Max". > > > > > > I was curious what others on this mailing list thought about the > current > > > state of Blender's user experience, if something should be done to > > improve > > > it, and what could be done to improve it. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Daniel Stokes > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Bf-committers mailing list > > > Bf-committers@blender.org > > > https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bf-committers mailing list > > Bf-committers@blender.org > > https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 10:50:02 +0200 > From: Ton Roosendaal <t...@blender.org> > Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] Current state of Blender's user > experience > To: bf-blender developers <bf-committers@blender.org> > Message-ID: <4b893b01-feaf-479d-bdb3-83cce0963...@blender.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi Daniel, > > Blender always had a share of haters and negative feedback since the early > days. > > The most avid haters are typically the unemployed freeloaders, self > proclaimed professionals (the "I used every 3d program out there in the > past 20 years" people) and other people who never paid a dime for Maya or > Max. There's also still a fair bit of contempt for anything free/open > source software in many (also professional) circles. > > The positive side is very impressive too. For example, you can find > Blender recommended on the Pixar website, and Nimble Collective (former > Dreamworks animators) invests heavily in promoting and supporting Blender: > http://www.nimblecollective.com/ > > Given the fact we make Blender in an open project for less than 1% of the > budget Autodesk spends on Maya or Max alone is something we can only be > incredibly proud of. We can always do better (as Piotr points out) but I > would suggest to keep a relaxed and healthy mind - not waste time to please > the haters, but to keep supporting our existing and growing user base and > to closely work with the top talents out there who want to be positively > involved. > > -Ton- > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Ton Roosendaal - t...@blender.org - www.blender.org > Chairman Blender Foundation, Producer Blender Institute/Studio > Entrepotdok 57A - 1018AD Amsterdam - The Netherlands > > > On 22 Apr 2016, at 00:07, Daniel Stokes <kupom...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Greetings, > > > > I recently came across this thread on the gamedev sub Reddit: > > > https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/4fs4db/why_dont_more_professional_game_studios_use_free/ > > > > > > In that thread are several unfavorable opinions about Blender, mostly > about > > its UI/UX. I thought we had moved past the opinion of Blender's UI being > > terrible during the 2.5 time frame, so I was a bit surprised to see > several > > complaints about it. Unfortunately, there are not a lot of specific > > complaints other than "it is not the same as Maya/Max". > > > > I was curious what others on this mailing list thought about the current > > state of Blender's user experience, if something should be done to > improve > > it, and what could be done to improve it. > > > > Regards, > > Daniel Stokes > > _______________________________________________ > > Bf-committers mailing list > > Bf-committers@blender.org > > https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Bf-committers mailing list > Bf-committers@blender.org > https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers > > > End of Bf-committers Digest, Vol 141, Issue 19 > ********************************************** > -- Fable Fox fable...@fablefox.com http://www.fablefox.com _______________________________________________ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
