Dear friends
 
What to know what is the Bm way of fighting corruption.Do we have any policy 
for that if yes then kindly share it with me
 
Amit
Jamshedpur

--- On Sun, 29/3/09, rahul bhide <[email protected]> wrote:


From: rahul bhide <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [bm] Should BM participate in this election?
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, 29 March, 2009, 2:02 AM











Akalpita,
 
At that time you mentioned in one of emails that it was ready. Anyways I will 
try to submit a writeup soon.
 
Regards,
Rahul

--- On Thu, 3/26/09, Bharat Uday Mission <bharatudaymission@ yahoo.co. in> 
wrote:

From: Bharat Uday Mission <bharatudaymission@ yahoo.co. in>
Subject: Re: [bm] Should BM participate in this election?
To: bharatudaymission@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 1:18 PM




Dear Rahul

Thanks Rahul for reminding the policy issue. Some time back, you promised to 
write on one of the issues, I forget which one. Will you now write? 
We must not just make suggestions, but strive to implement them.

Akalpita 

--- In bharatudaymission@ yahoogroups. com, rahul bhide <rahul_bhide2001@ ....> 
wrote:
>
> Yogi,
>  
> > I agree with you and I am writing this email to give futher consideration 
> > on this mattter. Thats what I feel about participation in elections..But 
> > thoughts apart, we still lack thoese 
> policies structure to make sure that we have some sort of things to plan and 
> work on.
>  
> > Again I request our president and members to create a policy of our party 
> > and also policy
> of our BM as a group. We all hate corruption thats true and thats why we are 
> here.(but let me tell you this thing, if you approach my 67 year old father; 
> retd. goverment servant with clean record that our party is going to fight 
> elections to wipe out dirt and corrupt system. He is not going to give a 5 
> mins attention to what you and I say). So if we need attention tell  comman 
> man of India how we are going to do it.  
> >But when it comes to politics or qulaity work we need to have the format, 
> >schedule, action plan etc. I know you might think it is easy to say this 
> >things sitting in US, but let me tell you thats what we come here to learn, 
> >I came here to this country to learn why this people are so advanced ? than 
> >us..As till date I have only one short answer. planing ,planing and planing. 
> >(there are other things as to why they are 1st world country but its beyond 
> >the scope of discussion)
>  
> > my long argument short, we need to write down policies, let some one write 
> > it and make it our agenda. I also agree on Yogis point on contesting 
> > elections this year.. we are little far away than ready to do it. But thats 
> > my view. If we think our passion to make Bharat clean ,then instead of 
> > being angry we should make strategies and plans and work acording to thoese.
>  
> Regards,
> Rahul
>  
> 
> --- On Thu, 3/26/09, mail.ryogi <mail.ryogi@ ...> wrote:
> 
> From: mail.ryogi <mail.ryogi@ ...>
> Subject: Re: [bm] Should BM participate in this election?
> To: bharatudaymission@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 12:27 AM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Subhash
> 
> I think we all know the aim we are trying to achieve seems quite difficult if 
> not impossible.
> 
> In my opinion formation of Political party was a right decision. But to 
> contest Elections in year 2009 is a bit tough, as we are so close to the time 
> line.
> 
> Mayank is a slightly(or maybe highly) agitated because there is little or 
> almost negligible translation of our talks into action; at least upto this 
> stage. Except Akalpita, the founder who has shelled out money to keep this 
> going and a fellow member from UK, who paid Rs. 50K for political party 
> formation process. 
> 
> Mayank and some other members putting in their daily hours to admin this 
> forum as well as the new website. There are some members who actually do the 
> ground activities, in terms of meeting people and conducting programs. I am 
> not exactly aware of those members activities.
> 
> So rest of the members(including myself) just contribute messages, neither 
> financial nor any other type of help.
> 
> So a BIG QUESTION is how to get into next gear !
> 
> Regards
> Yogi
> 
> --- In bharatudaymission@ yahoogroups. com, subhash medhi <medhi_2004@ ....> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Do you mean to say that we shall finishing off the job after the Lok Sabha 
> > elections are over ? Kindly give me a hint.
> >  
> > Subhash
> > 
> > --- On Mon, 3/16/09, mayank shukla <magicofmayank@ ...> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > From: mayank shukla <magicofmayank@ ...>
> > Subject: Re: [bm] Should BM participate in this election?
> > To: bharatudaymission@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 11:10 PM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > namaste,
> > 
> > No doubt Yogi jee is right.
> > But point is " uptill when we will be planning things ???? ". . .
> > We will not be alone contesting.I already requested president and core 
> > members that we sould make a co-elation with the existing good parties of 
> > our philosophy like" loksatta" and "bharat Punar Nirman " and "People`s 
> > Front" etc. . .
> > 
> > In this way Bharat Uday Mission can file candidates from where their 
> > co-elations are not contesting!! If we form a co-elation in a proper way we 
> > can give a comman man a 4th front.
> > 
> > You may think that I a mday dreaming.. . . .well then let me tell you that 
> > I dont have a job and I am 72.8% agrigate Mechanical Engineer (B.E). . .. 
> > all govt jobs are for SC n ST right now ( I am not against people in SC n 
> > ST but I am against people who made our beautiful system bad). . . I 
> > applied for 14 companies.
> > In all scene was " 14 to 200 seats for 20 000 to 2 kac candidates ". . .. .
> > 
> > IF I dont do any thing for system my son and generations ahead me will be n 
> > slum and I am pretty sure there wont be any reservations for them!!!
> > 
> > ( I hope I had right to think for 1 generation ahead of me )
> > 
> > Yogi jee
> > Please guide me!!!!
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Mayank
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 6:45 PM, mail.ryogi <mail.ryogi@ yahoo. com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Fellow members and founders of this group,
> > 
> > I know the subject of this topic may be slightly provoking, so please 
> > please read the entire message before making any conclusion.
> > 
> > In our existing political parties (since we are seeing the way it is) the 
> > decisions are taken by core group or party heads. I do not think that its 
> > the most correct way of doing it in a democratic country.
> > 
> > May be in BM we should think a better way where we can have a group 
> > thinking on any major policy decisions. This way we begin a completely new 
> > process in a political party.
> > 
> > Presently we have mixture of anger against current political system and 
> > excitement to change it but there is a less clarity on action points. It is 
> > quite obvious because in any movement, in beginning stage there will be a 
> > lots of thoughts poured on the table(kind of chaotic) and then we need to 
> > sort them to decide the 
> > Objectives - short term and long term
> > That will be followed by process to achive those objectives.
> > 
> > No doubt this process will take time because we begin this journey with 
> > many individuals' opinions and try to conclude with a group's opinion.
> > 
> > To bring the clarity on our goals, we need to channelize our thoughts, 
> > energies into topics/subjects/ issues that we want to fight about and then 
> > think of ways to resolve them.
> > 
> > For example we need to decide if we should participate in elections or not, 
> > then can we all share our thoughts with a valid reason behind it?
> > Let us answer below sub questions that will help to make us a group 
> > decision and find a path to achieve it -
> > Can I explain my decision with reasons for going for it or not?
> > If the answer is Yes - Then what is my contribution towards it?
> > If the answer is NO - Then what can I do to make at least some change or 
> > improvement in the current grim political situation.
> > 
> > This is my attempt to initiate a thought process on most critical issue we 
> > all interested in. Any type of criticism is most welcome.
> > 
> > Regards
> > Yogi
> >
>


















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