It seems to have to do with the redirect. The link you mentioned redirected to
the POST URL on BibDesk. On some other browsers I get
<https://login.dcu.ie/idp/Authn/UserPassword
<https://login.dcu.ie/idp/Authn/UserPassword>>, which does seem to work in
BibDesk. But I also get the wrong POST site in other browsers when it does not
directly redirect and I click the little redirect button I get there. But I
don’t know why it would not redirect all the way, as we’re not involved in
that, that’s all WebKit, we don’t influence that.
Christiaan
> On Apr 11, 2016, at 14:33, Novitzky Peter <pnovit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well, all works well in Safari and all the other web browsers, so either it
> is a webkit issue what Bibdesk is using, or Bibdesk itself.
>
> P
>
> Sent from phone.
>
> On 11 Apr 2016 1:30 pm, "Christiaan Hofman" <cmhof...@gmail.com
> <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 11, 2016, at 14:17, Novitzky Peter <pnovit...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:pnovit...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Christiaan,
> >
> > Thanks for getting back to me.
> >
> > Regarding the PDF, just as there is a button called "Import", for importing
> > the Bibtex reference, there might be a "PDF" button for importing the PDF
> > from the scientific articles' database. I am talking about big databases
> > (Scirus, Elsevier, SpringerLink, etc.) where we usually search for
> > articles, not Google Scholar, where you can get the rubbish. With the
> > Autofile feature it can be a very powerful combination not only to get the
> > reference, but also the PDF itself from the same frontend. I know there are
> > Applescripts to do this, but they are not really convenient to use.
> >
>
> You can also directly download remote links from the linked files pane on the
> right or in the item editor, if the URL is returned form the passed content.
> Of course, if it’s not there, we would not know what to download anyway.
>
> > Regarding the Keychain Access and the Web Group issue, I put into the
> > address bar the address of the login page. It loads the webpage, asking for
> > my login credentials. I click to the login field, type my login name, and
> > when I hit the Tab button, or click with the mouse to the password field,
> > it receives this step as a "Submit" button, and leads me to the "Failed to
> > login" page. The issue is that the single click on any field on the Web
> > Group is considered as an enter/submit.
> >
> > If I am really-really quick, I can submit my password too. But this is not
> > the correct way how things should function, right?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Peter
> >
>
> That sounds more like a problem of the login page. We just display that page
> in a pretty standard web view, and let that web kit handle the (re)loading of
> the webpage as needed. We don’t reload or submit any web page, unless you ask
> for it.
>
> Christiaan
>
> >
> > On 11 Apr 2016, at 13:10 pm, Christiaan Hofman <cmhof...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> On Apr 11, 2016, at 13:59, Novitzky Peter <pnovit...@gmail.com
> >>> <mailto:pnovit...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> I was wondering whether the following 2 features may be considered to be
> >>> implemented into Bibdesk.
> >>>
> >>> 1) I would love to use Bibdesk to import citations and download the PDFs
> >>> together with them. However, our library is providing a general login
> >>> page where I have to login first to have access through the university
> >>> proxy servers. It is https://login.dcu.idm.oclc.org/menu
> >>> <https://login.dcu.idm.oclc.org/menu> in case you want to check.
> >>>
> >>> My problem is that whenever I try to log in through the Web Group to this
> >>> page, any click to the login and password fields are considered as
> >>> hitting the "Enter" or hitting on a "Submit" button, making it almost
> >>> impossible to fill in the password after filling the login credential.
> >>>
> >>> Obviously, it will be desirable to be "logged in" properly with the
> >>> related cookie from the university library to be able to download the
> >>> PDFs.
> >>>
> >>> 2) One of the ways how to "avoid" this login-hassle would be if Bibdesk
> >>> would cooperate with the actual Keychain Access, where the login details
> >>> for this specific page are stored. Bibdesk already cooperates partially
> >>> with Keychain Access, when one wants to share her library on the local
> >>> network. Would it be possible that the Web Groups will be able to access
> >>> the data from Keychain Access?
> >>>
> >>> Please feel free to comment.
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>>
> >>> Peter
> >>
> >> A problem is I don’t know how to make this should work in practice. I
> >> don’t think it is a good idea to just download every linked PDF
> >> automatically, because quite often you just are searching, and not
> >> necessarily importing any items you view. So that would be very
> >> inefficient, and leave a lot of junk around.
> >>
> >> As for the login credentials, I don;t have a good view of what goes wrong
> >> and how it could be fixed. What is really going wrong when submitting a
> >> field is interpreted as an enter? I mean, submitting a field *is* enter.
> >> And AFAIK our web view is just a web view, and it supports cookies.
> >>
> >> Perhaps web groups could cooperate with the key chain, but I don;t se when
> >> and how that should happen.
> >>
> >> Christiaan
>
>
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