Thanks Jim for this thoughtful post -- I have been thinking the same  
thing (and experiencing some of the same changes in long-established  
workflow that you describe) but haven't had time to articulate it.

>  I'm reading electronically a lot more,
> making Skim highlights and notes as I go, and reviewing those notes in
> aggregated article lists targeted to particular writing projects,
> either on-screen or printed.


At this point my approach has been to build a project-specific group  
of references in BD & work with a flat file of notes related to that  
project, but that's not ideal -- I'd need to link that file to each  
of the reviewed documents or rely on Spotlight to preserve the  
associations.

> Scrivener
> is an interesting example, with a note card metaphor that allows you
> to create snippets of information that can be mixed, matched and
> ordered into manuscript precursor lists, which are then expanded into
> manuscripts with additional text.


I just looked at Scrivener for the 1st time last week, & one aspect  
that I really like is the ability to view a set of documents (notes)  
as if they were a single document.  But as you point out, it's not  
well set-up for co-authoring.

>
> This isn't a feature request for BibDesk and Skim...it's more of an
> early attempt at a use case or workflow description, and what might be
> needed to support it. I think I'd like to be able to manipulate Skim
> notes individually, as they may represent different concepts that
> could appear at different points in a manuscript. I'd like to be able
> to search for specific notes across an aggregate of references, with
> the result display, perhaps on a palette or in a pane, having a
> primary focus on the contents of the found notes with a secondary
> focus on the reference from which the note derived. Individual note
> objects should arbitrarily orderable on the palette by dragging. Notes
> on the palette would have a compact display of their content with
> links back to their PDFs and BibDesk entries. It's possible that it
> would be useful to allow the entry of new text notes on the fly in
> between dragged note objects, and to be able to order the notes
> hierarchically (essentially, an outline). It's also possible that it
> would be useful to enter additional text to notes on the palette after
> dragging. This wouldn't necessarily need to edit or add to the Skim
> notes, it could be a local annotation specific to the palette.
> Palettes should be savable with names so that they can be reopened,
> and notes should be draggable between palettes.
>
> Palettes represent manuscripts or manuscript sections. Once the notes
> were organized in the correct sequence and adequately annotated, I'd
> like to be able to export their content, in order, to my editor of
> choice as a starting point for writing.

This sounds a lot like what I was envisioning -- I'd add the capacity  
to generate a palette by manually adding notes, not just through  
search results -- ideally a palette/document could include both  
manually-created and smart/search-based sections.

I suspect this is going to run into the limitations posed by Skim  
relying on PDFKit -- I don't expect the notes can contain they  
keyword metadata etc. necessary to do this, so an addl. app. probably  
is necessary.

>
> I don't mean to make specific suggestions about user interface or
> other details and I recognize that some of this scenario may be naive
> or impractical. I do think, however, that it identifies a gap in our
> current tools, and I'd be interested in whether others also see the
> gap and would fill it in a similar or different way.
>

ditto, both about the gap and my ideas being naive or impractical.....

cheers
Derick


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