On Oct 22, 2011, at 07:00 , Simon Spiegel wrote:

> On 22.10.2011, at 15:31, Chris Goedde wrote:
> 
>> the references to sandboxing and entitlements, is that it applies to App 
>> Store apps, e.g. for an app to access iCloud from the desktop it needs to be 
>> approved through the app store. That's obviously not the case for BibDesk 
>> now or in the near future (and maybe never, given some of the App Store 
>> restrictions).

Never.  BibDesk would never pass the App Store review for several reasons 
(calling other tasks, private API, etc.), and sandboxing it would be well-nigh 
impossible without gutting the features that we all use.

>> I haven't heard anything official about whether non-App Store apps can 
>> access iCloud, so I don't know for sure that that's true.

See the links and also the comment from Gus Mueller here:

http://mjtsai.com/blog/2011/10/13/icloud-and-the-mac-app-store/

It sounds like the official word is on Apple's private developer forums.  Of 
course, my understanding from watching Apple's cocoa-dev list is that 
sandboxing is so broken that most applications can't use it yet...

> I haven't read the document in detail, but from glancing over it, I can only 
> see that you must be a registered development team. This is tied to a paid 
> developer account, 

…and as far as I know, Christiaan isn't a paid developer, and I certainly am 
not, so that's a roadblock as well.

-- 
Adam


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