I have a question:  At what frame size does one start having to make
compromises to fit 700c wheels?  I've never seen this addressed.
Thanks!

On Sep 1, 9:36 pm, Peter Jon White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well stated. When you build a frame that size for 700c rims, the only
> way to get the top tube short enough is to make the seat tube angle
> very steep. But that short top tube dimension is illusory. You'd get
> the same effect by using a slacker seat tube angle and one of those
> time trial seat posts that positions the saddle forward. The steep
> seat tube angle places the rider's center of mass well forward and she
> ends up supporting her torso's weight with her arms.
>
> With smaller wheels such as 559-26" the seat tube can have a better
> laid back angle and you can have a short top tube, without so much
> overlap in front.
>
> On Sep 1, 9:00 pm, "Lisa -S.H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Adding to this thought, I would also say that the poster is looking for
> > a 48-50cm frame, apparently for a small woman.  They also want to put
> > fenders on it.  This brings up the issue of wheel size and toe overlap,
> > etc.  A frame of that size would probably have to have wheels smaller
> > than 700c, especially if fenders were wanted.
>
> > Aside from this issue, I personally feel that a smallish woman really
> > should test ride a bike before buying it.  Most stock bikes are made to
> > men's proportions (even the small ones) and many of them have geometry
> > that makes women feel poorly balanced.  Reach/balance problems are an
> > ongoing issue for many (not all) women who buy stock bikes.  It's a very
> > common problem for women riders.
> > I believe that it's not the best scenario for a man to buy a stock frame
> > for a woman without the women test riding it.  Even if she has limited
> > riding experience, if she rides ten various bikes on test rides, she
> > will still get a feeling for which ones feel good to her body and which
> > don't.   There will be some that are the "right size" frame for her
> > height but are uncomfortable because their geometry is poorly suited to
> > her body proportions, and in some cases no amount of fitting/tweaking
> > will ever make them comfortable for her.  Elbow pain, numb hands, aching
> > shoulders, etc. can eventually make someone just not want to ride bike
> > anymore.   But once one finds a bike that has the geometry that fits
> > them beautifully, they can then use those same frame geometry numbers
> > when shopping for other bikes in the future.
>
> > Even though I can truly appreciate the thoughtful sentiment of building
> > a bike for your partner/girlfriend/wife, when it comes to women riders I
> > think it's especially important to test ride a stock bike before
> > buying.  It becomes even more critical if she is petite.
> > Just my own two cent opinion.   :)
> > Lisa
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