Wow, he banned me via IP address.  I didn't even say anything
confrontational.  I've never been banned.  Kinda' cool in it's own fun way.
I'll have to check from work now :-)



On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Mitch Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Thanks for the update.  I just read his little addition, and it's
> funny/sad how small and pathetic people can be. Glad I didn't comment
> on his site.
>
> --Mitch
>
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:02 PM, David Estes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > It sounds silly, but I've read this is related to control/lack of it that
> a
> > person has in their life.  A lot of people subconsciously view cyclists
> as
> > "freeer" than they are, and this builds to resentment.  Doesn't matter if
> > the cyclist is riding 100% correctly/obeying all laws, they are still
> > resented.  A type of person that views the world this way isn't rational.
> > That's why this is so disturbing.  Angry RX is now saying "ha, ha, it's
> just
> > a joke" but I bet the sentiment is still quite real.
> >
> > DE
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Mitch Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Not much evidence of rational thought there.
> >>
> >> Useful to read, though, because it does suggest how chaotic it can
> >> feel for drivers when they can't predict when or how cyclists will
> >> stop for lights and signs, or when their right of way at a stop will
> >> be taken by a cyclist.  Not to seem sympathetic to a murderous A-hole,
> >> but cyclists who negotiate stop lights/signs/turns should try to see
> >> it a little from his point of view.  This is not to say that this
> >> applies to riders who do a rolling stop through lights or signs when
> >> no car is there or when there is no question of taking another's right
> >> or way and no possibility of creating right of way confusion for
> >> drivers and other vehicle users.  This is another issue that we've
> >> gone 15 rounds on in the boblist--whether strict adherence to stop
> >> lights and signs in absence of the above possibilities is still a
> >> necessary virtue.  I'm ok with cyclists choosing either option, and
> >> only hope cyclists observe right of way carefully, considerately, and
> >> predictably.  Anyway, that seems like a reasonable minimum that would
> >> help keep peace on the roads.
> >>
> >> Another reasonable minimum for me in these discussions on cyclist
> >> lawlessness is to acknowledge how little drivers observe and obey the
> >> law.  I've said this before, and we've gone the rounds on this on-list
> >> too, and two wrongs don't make a right, etc.  But this
> >> pharmacist/narcissist, who's probably dipping into his class III
> >> cabinet too often, is a perfect example of this blindness to reality,
> >> seeing only the lawlessness of cyclists and suddenly unable to see the
> >> drivers breaking laws all around him.  The difference I think, is
> >> probably just that drivers are more predictable about right of way at
> >> lights and stop signs.
> >>
> >> But what also gives him away is his insistence that cyclists ride in
> >> the center of the lane.  He clearly doesn't want this because his
> >> opening point is that he'll run over anyone who gets in front of him,
> >> which would include any cyclist who rides the middle of the lane. So
> >> why does he say this?  Because he's full of petty resentment that
> >> cyclists can move ahead of him in gridlock by riding along the edge of
> >> a lane.  Here's a simple sanity check for him:  resent cyclists for
> >> making stop lights chaotic?--fine.  Resent that cyclists for using
> >> small light maneuverable contraptions that move through gridlock with
> >> less restriction than multi-ton 6 foot wide 12 foot long steel
> >> boxes?--sad self-deception.
> >>
> >> BTW, is this the kind of comment that would be read and understood on
> >> his site? Or would this comment just be ignored there or misunderstood
> >> and contribute to noise?
> >>
> >> --Mitch
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 9:45 PM, David Estes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Class-act there.  I hope you all leave comments.  I did.  Will see if
> it
> >> > gets posted after "moderation"...
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Keith (ne' trekman1420)
> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Ran across a heated discussion of bike commuting here
> >> >>
> >> >>
> http://www.theangriestpharmacist.com/2008/10/13/share-the-road-piss-off/
> >> >> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> David
> >> >> Redlands, CA
> >> >>
> >> > _______________________________________________
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> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> > unsubscribe:
> >> > http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-bob
> >> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > David
> > Redlands, CA
> >
>



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Cheers,
David
Redlands, CA

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