Arthur,
 
you bet your bippy! (on your response)  there are no easy answers...but as the 
saying goes..and its old for a reason...doing nothing doesn't work..doing 
something might...and its going to take several conjunctive efforts..always 
has...to make the situation better..it'll never be perfect...



Troy Thiel 
--- On Fri, 1/23/09, Ross, Arthur <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Ross, Arthur <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Bikies] creating a mindset...informing/marketing who cyclists are?
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Date: Friday, January 23, 2009, 1:26 PM



The issue, and the re-education program required, goes beyond driver's 
attitudes towards bicyclists.  Those of you who also drive motor vehicles know 
that many drivers also behavior inappropriately towards other motor vehicle 
drivers who are obeying the law by driving at or below (as conditions warrant) 
speed limits, who yield to pedestrians at crosswalks, etc.  We also know that 
many bicyclists are not angels on wheels, either.  The issue of creating a 
culture where all drivers, regardless of mode, place the safety of others above 
their own convenience is a daunting task for which there is no one easy 
solution.
 
Arthur Ross, Pedestrian-Bicycle Coordinator
City of Madison Traffic Engineering Division
215 Martin Luther King, Jr. Blvd., Suite 100
PO Box 2986
Madison, WI  53701-2986
608/266-6225


 



From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Troy Thiel
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 1:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Bikies] creating a mindset...informing/marketing who cyclists are?







Matt and others recent conversation about the drivers mentality to cyclists is 
important...somehow we need to use outlets..media and otherwise...to "market" 
or inform the driving world, of which I dither in too (I love anything with 
wheels...except roller skating)...that cyclists are more than inanimate objects 
but people, parents, children and committed involved citizens in many 
ways...just saving money, getting a workout, getting to work in a healthy 
way...having an impact.
 
Our media outlets could be the best way to get that message out...promoting a 
"know your commuter" profile...that humanizes those of us crazy enough to pedal 
around 4,000 pound "partners" that we share the roadways with....just one crazy 
thought.  Although its something we do here in the Network 222 Building..with a 
commuter of the week story/bio at the elevator postings...with incentives given 
to those who bike or take public transit into work and leave the car at home.
 
Meanwhile...anybody know where I can get a good rickshaw to take clients around 
on showings?
 
Troy Thiel 
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