Sorry for dredging up an old thread, but I'm just getting caught up.

Quote Larry Nelson:"Steve Hiniker doesn’t include the developer’s contribution 
for local roads, which is generally 100%."

Could you please expound on this statement? (in layman's terms please!). Bikers 
(myself included) tend to use talking points similar to Hiniker's to justify 
our right to use the roads. Are we incorrect in quoting this? Just how do 
developers $$$ fit into the equation? Thanks! -MCB



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From: Larry D. Nelson <[email protected]>
To: burleigh chorus.net <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, April 28, 2010 5:10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Bikies] County Highway KP

 
The cost to widen a road for bike lanes is greater than just the
proportion of pavement as the road bed has to be widened whereas the existing
road doesn’t require the replacement of the road bed.  Also, the
road side ditches have to be excavated beyond their current location and new
turf established.  Bridges and storm sewers need to be widened beneath the
roadbed  and the storm water culverts for driveways have to be relocated. 
I suspect that the County Transportation Engineers have estimated the costs
quite closely and I am not surprised by the cost increase.
 
Steve Hiniker doesn’t include the developer’s
contribution for local roads, which is generally 100%.
 
From:[email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of burleigh chorus.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Bikies] County Highway KP
 
Al, 
thats great to hear.

Unfortunately, the Town of Middleton is waffling on bike lanes on Old Sauk
Road:

http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt_and_politics/article_b3533244-507e-11df-bb09-001cc4c03286.html

Does it really cost 50% more money to add 25% more width to a road?

Anyway, Ivey hits on the real problem here:

"Hiniker says most drivers assume the taxes on gasoline cover the expense
to build and maintain roads. But he notes the state's transportation fund
— which is basically the gas tax combined with vehicle registration fees
— provides only 60 percent of local road funding. The rest falls to
property taxpayers."
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:55 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
Greetings fellow bikies:

Dane County Executive Kathleen Falk sent out a letter I thought you'd be
interested in. County Highway KP, a favorite route for bicycling in
west/northwestern Dane County, is scheduled for reconstruction. Two
elected officials from the Town of Black Earth expressed interest in
having a bike lane/shoulder included in the construction project. The
County Executive's office agreed to make this addition, and noted a price
tag of $600K.
-- 
..........
-darin


      
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