"Self-driving cars" will cause more congestion, not less.

On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 9:19 AM, Torrey via Bikies <bikies@lists.danenet.org
> wrote:

> But is another highway even needed if we create more transportation
> options such as Mike suggest? Bus and bike, but also more passenger and
> freight rail would do a lot. Plus new ideas such as PRT (personal rapid
> transit), car sharing, better regional planning, and self driving cars
> could lead to much less congestion. I think Mike's point was to try the
> other options first before building more highways.
>
> Torrey
>
>
> >  -------Original Message-------
> >  From: William Hauda via Bikies <bikies@lists.danenet.org>
> >  To: bikies@lists.danenet.org
> >  Subject: Re: [Bikies] Longest bike bridge in Wisconsin coming to Dane
> County in 2017 | Local News | host.madison.com
> >  Sent: 30 Jan '16 03:10
> >
> >  I would think this will take some cars off the Beltline by
> >  providing a more direct and safer bicycle commuter route between
> >  Madison, McFarland and Stoughton. Currently, bicycling between these
> >  communities can only be done under very challenging conditions,
> >  especially at the US 51/Beltline intersection. The eventual long-term
> >  solution to Beltline traffic congestion, however, will be construction
> >  of a connector between US 18/151 at Verona to I-39/90, which would
> >  eliminate the need for vehicular traffic heading east-west to go
> >  through Madison. There are all sorts of property owner, economic and
> >  environmental issues, but this will eventually happen to avoid making
> >  Madison a transportation  choke point.
> >
> >  On 1/29/2016 9:53 PM, Mike Neuman via Bikies wrote:
> >
> >  > I would hope that they are building this to relieve some of auto
> >  > commuter traffic in the area. But it seems they're bent on adding
> >  > more lanes to the beltine regardless. The should use this money to
> >  > establish a bus system between Madison and the outlying communities
> >  > instead. But of course that won't help keep the pockets of road and
> >  > bridge builders full.
> >  >
> >  > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Robert F. Nagel via Bikies
> >  > <bikies@lists.danenet.org> wrote:
> >  >
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> >  >
> >
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