I can't seem to get bind reconfigured to run with no threads ? Anyone have
any thoughts ?

When I rerun ./configure --disable-threads the configure file does not
update.

Regards,

Jesse Cabral 
Solutions Engineer 

Micro Technology Solutions, Inc. 
Phone:508.324.9475  Fax:508.324.4477 
21 Father DeValles Blvd, Suite 101, Fall River, MA 02723 
www.mtsolutions.net 

     




-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:jlight...@water.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 9:03 AM
To: jcab...@mtsolutions.net
Subject: RE: Bind is hanging on CentOS 4.4

Yes.  That's the way I would read it.  Starting with -n 1 means it should
all be on one processor even though it is running multiple threads.

Try this:
ps -Leo user,pid,ppid,lstart,lwp,nlwp,psr,args |egrep "LWP|named"
USER       PID  PPID                  STARTED   LWP NLWP PSR COMMAND
root      2833     1 Wed Jan 14 10:51:40 2009  2833    1   0 syslogd -m 0 -a
/var/named/chroot/dev/log
named    12622     1 Thu May 14 09:51:36 2009 12622    5   0 /usr/sbin/named
-u named -t /var/named/chroot
named    12622     1 Thu May 14 09:51:36 2009 12623    5   0 /usr/sbin/named
-u named -t /var/named/chroot
named    12622     1 Thu May 14 09:51:36 2009 12624    5   0 /usr/sbin/named
-u named -t /var/named/chroot
named    12622     1 Thu May 14 09:51:36 2009 12625    5   0 /usr/sbin/named
-u named -t /var/named/chroot
named    12622     1 Thu May 14 09:51:36 2009 12626    5   1 /usr/sbin/named
-u named -t /var/named/chroot
root     19429 19079 Fri May 29 08:59:39 2009 19429    1   0 egrep LWP|named

The above shows that I'm running 5 threads (NWLP column) of named and that 4
of them are on processor 0 and the final 1 is on processor 1 (psr column).
All are PID 12622 but the LWP (thread ID) is different for each.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jesse Cabral [mailto:jcab...@mtsolutions.net] 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 4:55 PM
To: Jeff Lightner
Subject: RE: Bind is hanging on CentOS 4.4
Importance: High

Here is some more info:

I decided to start named with the -n 1 then 

I ran ps -eLfc | grep named
named    26750     1 26750    4 TS   18 16:42 ?        00:00:00
/usr/sbin/named -u named -n 1 -t /var/named/chroot
named    26750     1 26751    4 TS   24 16:42 ?        00:00:15
/usr/sbin/named -u named -n 1 -t /var/named/chroot
named    26750     1 26752    4 TS   24 16:42 ?        00:00:00
/usr/sbin/named -u named -n 1 -t /var/named/chroot
named    26750     1 26753    4 TS   24 16:42 ?        00:00:03
/usr/sbin/named -u named -n 1 -t /var/named/chroot

4TS should be 4 threads. If I run

ps -p 26750 -T
  PID  SPID TTY          TIME CMD
26750 26750 ?        00:00:00 named
26750 26751 ?        00:00:20 named
26750 26752 ?        00:00:00 named
26750 26753 ?        00:00:04 named

It appears to be running 4 threads correct ?

Jesse Cabral 
Solutions Engineer 

Micro Technology Solutions, Inc. 
Phone:508.324.9475  Fax:508.324.4477 
21 Father DeValles Blvd, Suite 101, Fall River, MA 02723 
www.mtsolutions.net 

     




-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:jlight...@water.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 4:26 PM
To: jcab...@mtsolutions.net
Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: RE: Bind is hanging on CentOS 4.4

The output suggests named is running with threads (I see similar output on
my RHEL BIND server).

Try running  ps -efLm |grep named to get a better look at it.  Some time ago
they changed the way threads are done in Linux (one of the 2.4.x kernels).
The columns LWP and NWLP from the ps -eLf should show thread id and number
of threads respectively per the man page but based on what I'm seeing on my
RHEL system the latter is showing 0 when in fact there are multiple threads.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jesse Cabral [mailto:jcab...@mtsolutions.net] 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 3:55 PM
To: Jeff Lightner
Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: RE: Bind is hanging on CentOS 4.4
Importance: High

Here is the output from ps -eLf

ps -eLf | grep named
named    32231     1 32231  0    7 May26 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/named
-u named -t /var/named/chroot
named    32231     1 32232  0    7 May26 ?        00:15:04 /usr/sbin/named
-u named -t /var/named/chroot
named    32231     1 32236  0    7 May26 ?        00:15:04 /usr/sbin/named
-u named -t /var/named/chroot
named    32231     1 32237  0    7 May26 ?        00:14:58 /usr/sbin/named
-u named -t /var/named/chroot
named    32231     1 32238  0    7 May26 ?        00:15:06 /usr/sbin/named
-u named -t /var/named/chroot
named    32231     1 32239  0    7 May26 ?        00:00:07 /usr/sbin/named
-u named -t /var/named/chroot
named    32231     1 32240  0    7 May26 ?        00:12:40 /usr/sbin/named
-u named -t /var/named/chroot


I rebuild named with threads disabled and I still hand a hang afterward.

Jesse Cabral 
Solutions Engineer 

Micro Technology Solutions, Inc. 
Phone:508.324.9475  Fax:508.324.4477 
21 Father DeValles Blvd, Suite 101, Fall River, MA 02723 
www.mtsolutions.net 

     




-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:jlight...@water.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 1:27 PM
To: jcab...@mtsolutions.net
Subject: RE: Bind is hanging on CentOS 4.4

The implementation of ps has a lot to do with whether you see threads.

You might try:
To get info about threads:
   ps -eLf
   ps axms

-----Original Message-----
From: bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.
org] On Behalf Of Jesse Cabral
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 1:16 PM
To: 'JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉'
Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: RE: Bind is hanging on CentOS 4.4
Importance: High

I have decided to rebuild named with threads disabled. I will update you on
the results. I am hoping that will remedy the issue.

Thanks for your support.

Jesse Cabral 
Solutions Engineer 

Micro Technology Solutions, Inc. 
Phone:508.324.9475  Fax:508.324.4477 
21 Father DeValles Blvd, Suite 101, Fall River, MA 02723 
www.mtsolutions.net 

     




-----Original Message-----
From: JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 [mailto:jinmei_tat...@isc.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 3:14 PM
To: jcab...@mtsolutions.net
Subject: Re: Bind is hanging on CentOS 4.4

At Tue, 26 May 2009 09:23:22 -0400,
"Jesse Cabral" <jcab...@mtsolutions.net> wrote:

> When I run a ps ax | grep named 
> 
> I only see a single thread for named ? If I was using multi-threads it
> should show an additional thread for each instance correct ?

It depends on the ps implementation.  To be sure, you should start
named with the -g command line option and see initial log messages
on stderr.  If you see something like this:
26-May-2009 12:11:39.619 found 1 CPU, using 1 worker thread

threads are enabled.  If the threads are enabled, the best way to
eliminate the possibility of dead lock is to rebuild named
--disable-threads.  If you cannot do it, maybe you want to try
invoking named with the '-n 1' command line option.

---
JINMEI, Tatuya
Internet Systems Consortium, Inc.

p.s. if you don't mind, please cc follow up messages to the bind-users
list.  Then you can expect more help from others.   I'm just back from
vacation with so many email backlogs and my responses may be overly
delayed.

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