I didn't make this a personal attack so don't know why you felt it necessary to 
go that route.  However, since you did, it is clear from your comments you are 
BSD fan boy and will say whatever you can, including outright fabrications to 
make your position seem more valid than those of others.   I've not seen an OS 
yet that couldn't be rootkitted and implying that RHEL is some how more 
susceptible to that and that BSD is somehow immune to that is completely 
disingenuous.

Many organizations choose to use commercial variants of Linux specifically 
because they prefer to have an external support entity available.   If you had 
to reinstall RHEL to perform a simple upgrade that says more about your lack of 
experience with the platform than it does with the platform itself.  In my 20 
years of Systems Administration experience I've often made suggestions some 
heeded and some ignored but always knew I wasn't the tail that wags the dog.   
You apparently think you are in your organization so congrats on that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan [mailto:d...@sunsaturn.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 12:33 PM
To: Lightner, Jeff
Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: RE: R: Operating system recommendation


Simply what I meant by "their reinstall" is going to a new major revision
or someone rootkitted your box. Either would not pose a problem on 
freebsd.

I have redeployed RHEL systems as well and it required a reinstall, the 
upgrade left to many unstabilites in the system, not just the "cruft"
you suggest.

Its clear from that statement you don't run any BSD's and cost your 
company money running RHEL vs Centos or anything free that a competent 
admin could run just as well, perhaps the bit of money your company 
could save you could use towards a ploy for a raise!


Dan.



On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Lightner, Jeff wrote:

> "Linux people and their reinstalls"?!
>
> Somebody has confused Linux with Windows.  We've been running RedHat 
> Eneterprise Linux (RHEL) systems commercially for several years (including 
> our DNS servers) and the only time I "reinstall" is when I'm redeploying a 
> system and/or want to go to a newer major release.   As the prior poster said 
> RedHat is still supports RHEL4 (7 years or more) and RHEL5 (4 years or more) 
> and has now relased RHEL6.
>
> Redeployments don't require a reinstall - I simply do it (as I did for UNIX 
> system) to get rid of the cruft that is invariably left behind by 
> redeployments and in box upgrades from one major release to another.   I'd do 
> the same on BSD if I were still running any of those systems.
>
> Don't confuse hobbyists who like to tinker and reinstall at the drop of a hat 
> to undo their latest experiments with use of Linux in real data centers.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bind-users-bounces+jlightner=water....@lists.isc.org 
> [mailto:bind-users-bounces+jlightner=water....@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of 
> fddi
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 4:18 AM
> To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
> Subject: Re: R: Operating system recommendation
>
> bind performances are excellent also on FreeBSD and OpenBSD.
> Myself if I were a big ISP I would use OpenBSD, mainly for a security
> point of view.
>
>
> Riccardo
>
>
> On 3/11/11 9:23 AM, Chiesa Stefano wrote:
>>
>>
>> -----Messaggio originale-----
>> Da: bind-users-bounces+stefano.chiesa=wki...@lists.isc.org 
>> [mailto:bind-users-bounces+stefano.chiesa=wki...@lists.isc.org] Per conto di 
>> pollex
>> Inviato: mercoledì 9 marzo 2011 20.52
>> A: comp-protocols-dns-b...@isc.org
>> Oggetto: Operating system recommendation
>>
>> Hi, I want to know in your experience what is the best operating
>> system to run bind for an ISP. We currently have Debian for the 5
>> Cache servers and for the 2 Authoritative servers.
>> We have around 111851 success querys in the cache servers and around
>> 7267 zones created in the authoritative servers.
>> We are doing a major re analysis for all the arquitecture and Debian
>> is changing to soon their versions and only have support for 1 version
>> before so I dont know if this is best option
>>
>> Best regards and thanks
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>>
>> Hello.
>> The italian Registration Authorithy, that manages more than 2 millions .it 
>> domains, runs theirs BIND dns server on UBUNTU.
>>
>> For futher info you can try to contact them at their email addresses:
>>
>> i...@registro.it
>> hostmas...@registro.it
>>
>> http://www.nic.it/?set_language=en
>>
>> Hope this help.
>>
>> Ciao.
>> Stefano.
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