On 17-Feb-22 16:45, Randy Bush wrote:
for some reason lost in time, i have the following in `/etc/ipfw.rules`
on a freebsd system running bind9

     add allow tcp from any to me 53 limit src-addr 1 setup
     add deny tcp from any to me 53

the results are

     01000  48358531   6390772849 allow tcp from any to me 53 setup limit 
src-addr 1 :default
     01100    165225      9379997 deny tcp from any to me 53

is this about normal?

randy

This seems like an artifact of a time when people assumed that TCP use was rare (and expensive), and likely only used for zone transfers.  Were that the case, this would have been an attempt to protect against denial of service attacks.

This was always a bad assumption.  With today's larger responses & traffic profiles, if it ever made sense, it's long past its expiration date.  TCP is required, and no RFC requires a client (or clients) on a host to minimize the number of TCP connections. Nor to limit the number of active zone transfers per host.

The effect is likely to be that client responses are slow and/or pushed away from this server to one that's more tolerant.  Whether the 165K dropped connections are significant is impossible to tell without (a) knowing the amount of time it represents and (b) what those attempts were trying to do.  They represent about 0.3% of the traffic in this interval - but that doesn't measure their importance.

Since you don't have a specific rationale for the rule based on a known situation, I would remove it.  (More precisely, remove the limit, which means replacing these rules with something like 'allow tcp from any to me 53'.)  If that results in abusive traffic, another (traffic-specific) approach to dealing with it would be in order.  And if it comes to that, do yourself (and your successors) a favor and document the problem you encounter and how your solution works...

Timothe Litt
ACM Distinguished Engineer
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