Hello, I have been running BIND 9 on my external and internal networks for a few years now -- as such I have a basic understanding of the most common RR types and activities such as zone transfers. However, I have been seeing something that's been baffling me for quite a while now. Somehow there are services like c99.nl [1] and Criminal IP [2], which can enumerate various subdomains on a given target domain. I am confused as to how they can enumerate this information.
As far as I know, a NS record returns the name servers authoritative for a domain. Alright, now you've got authoritative information when querying these domains. No useful information about the zone data they are responsible for though. Then there is an A record, which returns an IPv4 address of a server responsible for a domain. Alright, now you can talk to a server. Maybe that would be a webserver, and now you may perform a HTTP exchange to that server (GET /whatever, with a given Host header). You still have to guess what the Host: header would have to be. Maybe it would be an MX record. Brilliant, now you could talk to a mail server. Its EHLO message (sometimes called a "banner" in security circles) would contain a domain, alright. It would also only be one of them -- AFAICT only one domain that the organization wants to actually primarily send from. Another interesting record would be the CNAME record. As far as I know, this is used to redirect to another domain from within the DNS, with its own bespoke entries (bringing us back to A records). Getting from a CNAME to an A record seems easy enough, but what about getting these CNAME records in the first place? This is what I am thinking of so far, but it may well be that I've been talking crap in all of the above and know nothing about the DNS. That's fine, and in that case please correct me where necessary. Either way, I'm very confused on how these services can actually enumerate these subdomains, and find most -- if not all -- reliably. This seems a bit concerning to me with regards to unwanted information disclosure, hence my curiosity. If it is at all possible to mitigate, I would of course also appreciate discourse on this matter. Thank you! [1] https://subdomainfinder.c99.nl [2] https://criminalip.io/domain Best regards, Michael -- Visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list ISC funds the development of this software with paid support subscriptions. Contact us at https://www.isc.org/contact/ for more information. bind-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users

