Hi Davide,

Lots of good advice here. The main goal with two packages is to minimize dependencies for the experiment data package as this is presumed to be the less specialized package. Whenever you have a package ready please be sure to follow the follow the instructions on the link that Herve provided.

Thanks in advance for your interest in contributing to the project,


  Marc



On 03/04/2013 08:19 AM, Kasper Daniel Hansen wrote:
This is a kind of a chicken and egg problem.

If the data in the experimental data package is in base R containers
(like just a matrix etc), it is pretty clear: the data package does
not depend on anything and the methods package either suggests or
depends on the data package.

However, in most cases, the data will be in some container (S4)
defined in the methods package.  In that case I usually let the data
package depends on the methods package and I let the methods package
suggests the data package.  Then you need to start each example by
something like

if(require(DATAPACKAGE)) {
   CODE
}

I have done this for minfi/minfiData and bsseq/bsseqData

Kasper


On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Davide Rambaldi<davide.ramba...@ieo.eu>  wrote:
You can solve the package size issue by putting your example data in a separate 
"experiment data" package 
(http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/release/data/experiment/).

Stephanie

I fixed the package size issue with a secondary experiment data package 
(flowFitExampleData)

It is not clear to me how to fix the dependencies between the 2 packages:

My setup (I am trying to duplicate the affy/affydata setup…):

flowFit/DESCRIPTION

Suggests: flowFitExampleData


flowFitExampleData/DESCRIPTION

Depends: flowFit


And a lot of (may be are not necessary?)

if (require(flowFItExampleData))

in the examples

  It is correct?

Davide

P.S:

  tested the package on OSX and Linux with R 3.0 unstable for BUILD and CHECK 
and it's OK… (me vs inconsolata.sty: 1 -0)

  for windows, well I will try to do it … may be I will ask more help ...



On Feb 27, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Stephanie M. Gogarten wrote:

You can solve the package size issue by putting your example data in a separate 
"experiment data" package 
(http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/release/data/experiment/).

Stephanie

On 2/27/13 3:03 AM, Davide Rambaldi wrote:
Hi all,

I am working on a library called flowFit, the purpose of this library is to 
analyze the FACS data coming from proliferation tracking dyes study.

The library depends on the flowCore and flowViz bioconductor libraries and use 
minpack.lm (levenberg-marquadt algorithm) to fit a set of peaks over the FACS 
data.

A typical experimental pipeline:

1) Acquire with FACS a sample of unlabelled cells
2) Acquire with FACS a sample of labeled and unstimulated cells (the Parent 
Population)
3) Acquire with FACS a sample of labeled and stimulated cells (the 
Proliferative Population)

In R we can use the flowCore functions to transform the raw data and to gate 
the population of interest. Once we have gated the correct population, with 2 
commands of flowFit you can perform the fitting:

library(flowFit)
parent<- parentFitting(QuahAndParish[[1]], "<FITC-A>")
fitting<- proliferationFitting(QuahAndParish[[2]],  "<FITC-A>", 
parent.fitting.cfse@parentPeakPosition,  parent.fitting.cfse@parentPeakSize)
The function can generate also some graphical output with:

plot(fitting.cfse)
To demonstrate the correctness of the fitting I have made some in silico 
simulations and a retrospective analysis of the data from the paper:

"New and improved methods for measuring lymphocyte proliferation in vitro and in 
vivo using CFSE-like fluorescent dyes", Benjamin J.C. Quah ⁎, Christopher R. Parish, 
Journal of Immunological Methods (2012)

In this paper, the same population of lymphocytes (proliferation with the same 
growth conditions) was stained with 3 different proliferation tracking dyes: if 
the fitting algorithm is working as expected, we expect to estimate the same % 
of cells for generation in the 3 sample.

Comparing the 3 samples we didn't see any significant difference in the 
estimation of the % of cell for generations, suggesting us that the algorithm 
is correctly estimating the % of cells / generation.

I have posted a graphical output example with the Quah and Parish data (pdf) 
here:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40644496/QuahAndPArishOut.pdf

The dataset will be included in the library (in the data subdir).

Actually I am writing the vignette (I am following the guidelines in 
http://www.bioconductor.org/developers/package-guidelines/) and fixing some 
graphical bugs (like the legend oversized …).

The package Pass R CMD build and R CMD CHECK (time: 86 seconds) with no errors 
on OSX and Linux (I have to find a windows machine somewhere ...), I still have 
to test with the R-devel version of R.

The library is bigger than expected (4.2 Mb) because the example datasets (FCS 
files converted in .Rdata) are big (3.7M) and I don't know how to solve this 
issue...

My question is, How I proceed from here?

I would like to publish the library/methods in a paper (Bioinformatics Journal 
may be?) and submit the library to Bioconductor, which is the correct way to 
proceed?

Thanks

P.S: If I miss (again!) some FAQ please apologize me

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Davide Rambaldi, PhD.
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