Val and I discussed this a bit, with the resolution that calling the 
GAlignmentPairs() constructor on the first and the second element of the 
GAlignmentsList was the 'easiest' way to go.

  ga = unlist(gal[mcols(gal)$mate_status == "mated"])
  GAlignmentPairs(ga[c(TRUE, FALSE)], ga[c(FALSE, TRUE)])

(completely speculative code). If I understand correctly, there's a check in 
for discordant pairs in readGAlignmentPairs, but not in GAlignmentPairs itself; 
could be mistaken though...

Martin
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From: Michael Lawrence [lawrence.mich...@gene.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 9:48 AM
To: Hervé Pagès
Cc: Michael Lawrence; Morgan, Martin; bioc-devel@r-project.org
Subject: Re: [Bioc-devel] readGAlignmentPairs with discordant strand

This might have been lost in this thread. If there is an easy way to coerce a 
GAlignmentsList where all(lengths(x) == 2) to a GAlignmentPairs, please let me 
know. Otherwise, I'll add a coerce method. Debating whether it should discard 
elements of length != 2, or if it should fail.

On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Michael Lawrence 
<micha...@gene.com<mailto:micha...@gene.com>> wrote:
Sure, "*" makes more sense for strand, given the precedent.

On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Hervé Pagès 
<hpa...@fredhutch.org<mailto:hpa...@fredhutch.org>> wrote:
> On 10/16/2015 09:28 AM, Michael Lawrence wrote:
>>
>> I kind of wish it would return NA for things like seqnames and strand,
>> but yes that would be very useful.
>
>
> Could do this for seqnames() but I'm hesitant to do this for strand().
> If you look at ?strand in BiocGenerics, ‘*’ is used when the exact
> strand of the location is unknown, or irrelevant, or when the "feature"
> at that location belongs to both strands. A pair with discordant strand
> belongs to both strands. Also there is a lot of code around that
> assumes strand() never returns NAs.
>
>
> H.
>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Hervé Pagès 
>> <hpa...@fredhutch.org<mailto:hpa...@fredhutch.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Michael, Martin,
>>>
>>> On 10/16/2015 06:48 AM, Michael Lawrence wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It does seem like starting with the more general data structure is the
>>>> better approach, but I couldn't find an easy way to move the paired
>>>> subset
>>>> of GAlignmentsList to GAlignmentPairs. You mention a coercion, but it's
>>>> not
>>>> obvious to me, unfortunately.
>>>>
>>>> Another approach would be a GAlignmentPairs where the unpaired reads
>>>> have
>>>> "missing" mates. I know GAlignments has no concept of missing, but it
>>>> would
>>>> get everything into a single data structure that is convenient for
>>>> computing on pairs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I could modify readGAlignmentPairs() to have the discordant and/or
>>> ambiguous pairs end up in th GAlignmentPairs. The ambiguous pairs
>>> could be marked as such thru a metadata col of the object or thru
>>> a proper slot. The seqnames() and strand() accessors will return
>>> * on discordant pairs. Does that sound reasonable?
>>>
>>> H.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 5:21 AM, Morgan, Martin <
>>>> martin.mor...@roswellpark.org<mailto:martin.mor...@roswellpark.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Bioc-devel 
>>>>>> [mailto:bioc-devel-boun...@r-project.org<mailto:bioc-devel-boun...@r-project.org>]
>>>>>>  On Behalf
>>>>>> Of
>>>>>> Michael Lawrence
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:41 AM
>>>>>> To: bioc-devel@r-project.org<mailto:bioc-devel@r-project.org>
>>>>>> Subject: [Bioc-devel] readGAlignmentPairs with discordant strand
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now that GAlignmentPairs supports discordant strand between mates, how
>>>>>> hard would it be to relax that restriction on readGAlignmentPairs()?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, would be nice if getDumpedAlignments() returned those dumped by
>>>>>> readGAlignmentPairs(). Right now, I'm reading a GAlignments (with the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> extra
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> mcols) and calling makeGAlignmentPairs(). Not so convenient.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure whether this is relevant to your use case but
>>>>> readGAlignmentsList returns a list of paired mates, and if appropriate
>>>>> (based on ScanBamParam) list elements with solo travelers. The paired
>>>>> portion of the list can be coerced to GAlignmentPairs if the additional
>>>>> structure of that class is required.
>>>>>
>>>>> Martin
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>
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