well, Hadley usually walks people through the steps required to 1) file a
bug reproducibly or 2) learn how to do the thing in question organically,
and his universe is doing OK, so N=1 in favor of that approach. Also a lot
of people helped me learning Perl (!) on Usenet (!!!) so yeah I'm old but
it seems like civility was once a little more common. Bioc-devel and
support.bioconductor.com are healthy communities, I would hope that nobody
minds this being spelled out explicitly.
I love Prof Ripley and he's never been anything but nice to me, still,
r-help's reputation took a beating from his insistence on self-reliance.
Several times when I thought I understood a library or process, I'd write
up an example and discover that what I believed to be true was not, in
fact, true -- perhaps an example was cordoned off with \{dontrun} or some
such, perhaps an upstream package broke unwritten assumptions, whatever.
My point is that it can be beneficial for the answerer as for the asker,
and perhaps if one does not have time to provide a working example in an
answer, then it might be better to let another person with sufficient time
go ahead and address that question.
JMHO, since you asked "everyone else".
Best,
--t
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 2:58 PM, Leonardo Collado Torres <lcoll...@jhu.edu>
wrote:
> Hi Mike, Lori and everyone else,
>
> I recently saw this tweet
> https://twitter.com/aprilwensel/status/989248246878035972 that links
> to https://medium.com/compassionate-coding/its-time-
> to-retire-rtfm-31acdfef654f#---0-162
>
> First, I'm curious if you've read it and if you like it. Second, maybe
> we could include some of it (or link to it) in the suggested changes
> to the posting guide that Mike is working on.
>
> Best,
> Leo
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 10:10 AM, Shepherd, Lori
> <lori.sheph...@roswellpark.org> wrote:
> > May I also suggested when you are satisfied with user feedback and
> alterations to create a pull request for the website repository
> >
> >
> > https://github.com/Bioconductor/bioconductor.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Lori Shepherd
> >
> > Bioconductor Core Team
> >
> > Roswell Park Cancer Institute
> >
> > Department of Biostatistics & Bioinformatics
> >
> > Elm & Carlton Streets
> >
> > Buffalo, New York 14263
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Bioc-devel <bioc-devel-boun...@r-project.org> on behalf of
> Michael Love <michaelisaiahl...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 11:23:35 AM
> > To: bioc-devel
> > Subject: [Bioc-devel] Suggested edits to support site posting guide
> >
> > dear all,
> >
> > I've edited the text from the posting guide
> > <http://www.bioconductor.org/help/support/posting-guide/> to update it a
> > bit.
> >
> > For example, some of the text still referred to the mailing list
> > :
> > "Compose a new message with a new subject line".
> >
> > Mostly, though, I wanted to emphasize posting all of their R code and
> > information about the experiment, which is often missing from support
> site
> > posts. The self-contained example with data and code is rarely possible
> > because many Bioc users have large datasets that can't be shared.
> >
> > Curious if this is useful or if others have suggestions. The following
> > link allows edits:
> >
> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1baiBUYB8E02KMbaojjoo-
> > tKV3Ctd9sA5lVCvwFIWquA/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> > best,
> > Mike
> >
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