Hi, 

Thanks for your input - the Force10 switches have a VLT function (almost the 
same as cisco vPC) which makes it possible to run LACP against two non-stacked 
switches.
But this VLT stuff is only for L2, not L3, which means that basically servers 
see the switches as one device through L2, but for routing protocols and other 
L3 stuff they are two seperate devices...

I got it working by disabling peer-routing as written earlier, I’ll test some 
more.

Regards
Kristoffer

On 16/12/2013, at 10.49.13, Kveri <kv...@kveri.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> you cannot use LACP between 3 devices. That is only possible if two of those 
> devices (Force10 routers/switches) are forming one logical device (Cisco VSS, 
> MEC, virtual PortChannel, HP IRF), I don't know if Force10 has something like 
> that. If you do this however, those 2 routers will appear as one logical 
> device (one OSPF neighbor) to the server, then you don't have a problem. This 
> is preferred solution, because it takes the problem from OSPF to much faster 
> technologies.
> 
> On the other hand you can do VRRP between the routers and do OSPF on the 
> hypervisor with both of the routers, in this case just beware the asymetric 
> routing (which may/may not be a problem, depending on the setup).
> 
> Regarding your setup, I assume you're using the same IP on both of the 
> routers, this won't work because from the router perspective the links are UP 
> and they're advertising the same /31 to the rest of the network, this will 
> cause half of the packets/flows to be lost.
> 
> So, you can either use some virtualization switching technology (if Force10 
> provides that), or you can use VRRP with 2 OSPF neighborships (but in that 
> case you need /29 subnet), or you can do some sort of script on the server 
> and use master-slave bonding mode, but be sure to always shutdown the 
> inactive interface (be sure to always have enabled only one of them 
> physically), that way only one of the Force10 routers would advertise the 
> subnet...
> 
> Martin
> 
> 2013-12-16 10:24 odosielateľ napísal:
>> Yes - the reason is that this router is a VM with two passthrough NICs.
>> The hypervisor is connected to both Force10 routers/switches with
>> LACP, so the VM needs to run linux bonding mode 2 to provide a bond0
>> interface to the VM.
>> Neighbourship then needs to be established to both routers on this
>> bonded interface.
>> I tried to create neighbourship directly on the interfaces, but this
>> does not work, I assume because the switches loadbalance traffic on
>> the LACP portchannel.
>> I could create a neighbourship with a VRRP interface, but as I
>> understand it this will not work due to different router-ids in case
>> of failover.
>> So basically as I see it, this is the only way to make this work -
>> unless you have another idea?
>> Thanks
>> Regards
>> Kristoffer
>> On 13/12/2013, at 17.37.29, Raphael Mazelier <r...@futomaki.net> wrote:
>>>> I?m trying to use a bonded interface on linux to connect to two routers, 
>>>> one router on each physical link, each with a /31 subnet.
>>>> Only one of the routers (Force10 S4810) forms adjacency with the linux 
>>>> host (whichever comes first), the other gets stuck in EXSTART
>>>> until I shut/no shut the link, then Bird creates adjacency with both 
>>>> routers.
>>> What are you trying to do with this design ? It's rather strange.
>>> --
>>> Raphael Mazelier

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