Hi Eric,

> On Jun 29, 2019, at 23:21, Eric Voskuil <e...@voskuil.org> wrote:
> 
> What loan? Alice has paid Bob for something of no possible utility to her, or 
> anyone else.
> 

Coins encumbered with the described covenant represent temporary control of a 
scarce resource.

Can this obtain value? That depends on the availability of final control and 
ability to deal with temporary control.

An example where final control is not available are areas and jurisdictions 
where land can not be bought only long time rents are offered.
People pay high prices there to step in place of the renter in an existing long 
term rent contract and they figured out the contracts that work under these 
restrictions.

Bitcoin’s predominant use is already store of value. Many assume not only 
wealth preservation but that it would allow to purchase of more goods in the 
future than now.
This leads to unwillingnes to give up final control, which can resolve in two 
ways:

- Increasing fiat prices for final control. We see this, and is actually 
further reinforcing unwillingnes to give up final control.
- dealing with temporary control. We do not yet have the technical means of 
even representing this. Developing them is my goal.

I think you do not show the neccesary respect of the market.

Your rant reminds me of renowed economists who still argue final control 
Bitcoin can not have value, you do the same proclaiming that temporary control 
of Bitcoin can not have value.

I say, that temporary control does not have value until means dealing with it 
are offered, and that is I work on. Thereafter might obtain value if final 
control is deemed too expensive or not attainable, we shall see.

Tamas Blummer


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