Good Afternoon,

No. This has been discussed previously and eliminated as there is no proof that 
the transaction can exist without population through the mempool. As a method 
of payment not hearing about a transaction until it is possibly mined three 
months later as I have experienced is non-functional, there were discussions in 
this mailing list. The purpose of the mempool is not gossip it is gossip and 
any node technically can mine if they do.

KING JAMES HRMH
Great British Empire

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Subject: [bitcoin-dev] death to the mempool, long live the mempool

Hi all,

In a recent conversation with @glozow, I had the realization that the mempool 
is obsolete and should be eliminated.

Instead, users should submit their transactions directly to mining pools, 
preferably over an anonymous communication network such as tor. This can easily 
be achieved by mining pools running a tor onion node for this express purpose 
(or via a lightning network extension etc)

Mempools make sense in a world where mining is done by a large number of 
participating nodes, eg where the block template is constructed by a majority 
of the participants on the network. In this case, it is necessary to socialize 
pending transaction data to all participants, as you don’t know which 
participant will be constructing the winning block template.

In reality however, mempool relay is unnecessary where the majority of 
hashpower and thus block template creation is concentrated in a semi-restricted 
set.

Removing the mempool would greatly reduce the bandwidth requirement for running 
a node, keep intentionality of transactions private until 
confirmed/irrevocable, and naturally resolve all current issues inherent in 
package relay and rbf rules. It also resolves the recent minimum relay 
questions, as relay is no longer a concern for unmined transactions.

Provided the number of block template producing actors remains beneath, say 
1000, it’d be quite feasible to publish a list of tor endpoints that nodes can 
independently  + directly submit their transactions to. In fact, merely 
allowing users to select their own list of endpoints to use alternatively to 
the mempool would be a low effort starting point for the eventual replacement.

On the other hand, removing the mempool would greatly complicate solo mining 
and would also make BetterHash proposals, which move the block template 
construction away from a centralized mining pool back to the individual miner, 
much more difficult. It also makes explicit the target for DoS attacks.

A direct communication channel between block template construction venues and 
transaction proposers also provides a venue for direct feedback wrt acceptable 
feerates at the time, which both makes transaction confirmation timelines less 
variable as well as provides block producers a mechanism for (independently) 
enforcing their own minimum security budget. In other words, expressing a 
minimum acceptable feerate for continued operation.

Initial feerate estimation would need to be based on published blocks, not 
pending transactions (as this information would no longer be available), or 
from direct interactions with block producers.


~niftynei
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