Why use ripple and not just use the testnet?
The advantageous of allowing testnet to be used as an alt-coin are That Non
standard transactions can be tested in a pseudo live environment where because
the coins have some nominal value people are incentivized to try and steal and
come up with clever ways of gamin the system. This sort of knowledge would be
invaluable if non standard transactions are ever going to become a reality on
main net.
It also allows developers a chance to develop in advance new technologies and
services that currently won't run on bitcoin main net but might be enabled in
the future at which point they can switch over to main net. Additionally
without any development happening with non standard transactions as currently
there is no economic incentive , there might be a strong argument to never
bother enabling non standard transactions as the risk of doing so might not
justify in many people's minds the benefits as if no one develops anything in
advance most users might not find the theoretical possibilities worth the
risk, thus permanently hobbling the full potential of satoshis idea. Rather if
testnet were allowed to act as an alt coin something cool might be developed
that the main net users might desire enough to overcome the inertia of the
status quo.
Additionally it should be considered that the time in the future when non
standard transactions might be enabled might be so far in the future when
bitcoin has hit mass adoption and changing anything might require far more
political negotiations between users and devs then currently. Meaning that
perhaps much more proof of functionality and value as well as testing might e
required.
Dennison
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On Jun 15, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarva...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 19 May 2013 15:23, Adam Back <a...@cypherspace.org> wrote:
>> Is there a way to experiment with new features - eg committed coins - that
>> doesnt involve an altcoin in the conventional sense, and also doesnt impose
>> a big testing burden on bitcoin main which is a security and testing risk?
>>
>> eg lets say some form of merged mine where an alt-coin lets call it
>> bitcoin-staging? where the coins are the same coins as on bitcoin, the
>> mining power goes to bitcoin main, so some aspect of merged mining, but no
>> native mining. and ability to use bitcoins by locking them on bitcoin to
>> move them to bitcoin-staging and vice versa (ie exchange them 1:1
>> cryptographically, no exchange).
>>
>> Did anyone figure anything like that out? Seems vaguely doable and
>> maybe productive. The only people with coins at risk of defects in a new
>> feature, or insufficiently well tested novel feature are people with coins
>> on bitcoin-staging.
>>
>> Yes I know about bitcoin-test this is not it. I mean a real live system,
>> with live value, but that is intentionally wanting to avoid forking bitcoins
>> parameters, nor value, nor mindshare dillution. In this way something
>> potentially interesting could move forward faster, and be les risky to the
>> main bitcoin network. eg particularly defenses against
>>
>> It might also be a more real world test test (after bitcoin-test) because
>> some parameters are different on test, and some issues may not manifest
>> without more real activity.
>>
>> Then also bitcoin could cherry pick interesting patches and merge them after
>> extensive real-world validation with real-money at stake (by early
>> adopters).
>
> Interesting idea. I wonder if ripple could be used to set up a transfer
> system between the 'main' and 'staging' systems ...
>
>>
>> Adam
>>
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