To clarify, there are proposals to make miners recognize this situation and account for it, only eligius is running it at the moment IIRC: http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/8390/are-there-any-pools-or-large-miners-running-child-pays-for-parent-patch Right now if you were to try it likely wouldn't result in inclusion. But this is on the radar, and I suspect it'll eventually get merged into mainline.
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:06 PM, Dâniel Fraga <frag...@gmail.com> wrote: > This is good news! Thank you very much Ben for the answer. > > On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:52:39 -0800 > Ben Davenport <bendavenp...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> You can create a transaction which spends the output to yourself, attaching >> a fee to that transaction. In order for miners to grab the transaction fee >> on that transaction, they would have to also mine the original transaction. >> Likely, you'd have to do this by hand, but software could be written to >> simplify doing it. No protocol changes needed. >> >> Ben >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Dâniel Fraga <frag...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Someone sent me a very small donation (0.00121 BTC) without >> > paying fees. I don't know who sent it and I know this type of >> > transaction are usually rejected by miners. Take a look at it below: >> > >> > https://imageshack.com/i/ngv5g8j >> > >> > Even with the a low probability of confirmation, I >> > was hoping that after a few days it could be included in a block, but >> > Blockchain.info simply removed it (I know the sender sent from a >> > Blockchain.info wallet, because he added a note): >> > >> > >> > https://blockchain.info/pt/tx/3cde47ee3979a46b36bd61bdb0caf9c11dea58ac99f17fb17b95728766de70e0 >> > >> > As you can see now it shows as "Transaction not found". >> > >> > My suggestion is: it would be nice if the receiver could have a >> > chance to pay the fee when the sender didn't pay any fee. For example, >> > I could pay a fee of 0.0001 BTC and receive 0.00121 BTC. In the end I'd >> > have 0.00111 BTC. Better than nothing. >> > >> > Would it be technically possible to do that or it would be too >> > much trouble to change the protocol to allow the receiver to pay an >> > optional fee? >> > >> > Ps: I'm not a programmer, but if the receiver could >> > optionally "attach" some fee to the transaction, even if he/she didn't >> > sent the transaction, this could be solved. Bitcoin-qt could even warn >> > the receiver he received a transaction without fee and if he wants >> > faster confirmation he could pay a fee. >> > >> > Ps2: if this is a silly suggestion, just ignore it. I tried on >> > Bitcointalk, but nobody answered. >> > >> > -- >> > Linux 3.12.0: One Giant Leap for Frogkind >> > http://www.youtube.com/DanielFragaBR >> > http://mcxnow.com >> > Bitcoin: 12H6661yoLDUZaYPdah6urZS5WiXwTAUgL >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. >> > Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For >> > Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. >> > Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. >> > >> > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Bitcoin-development mailing list >> > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development >> > >> > > > -- > Linux 3.12.0: One Giant Leap for Frogkind > http://www.youtube.com/DanielFragaBR > http://mcxnow.com > Bitcoin: 12H6661yoLDUZaYPdah6urZS5WiXwTAUgL > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. > Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For > Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. > Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ Bitcoin-development mailing list Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
