Pardon my ignorance (and I am not being sarcastic here), but what is
blackholing? This is a new term to me. And is it legal? Who engages in
such practices, and why?
Thanks.
Frank
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: profanedomains.com
>
> I completely agree in priciple, that censorship is bad.
> For us, this is a business decision.
> We are an ISP/WebHosting business first, and an RSP and "protector of
> free speech" second.
>
> We give free parking and framed redirect(with an ad), and all email to
> the admin contact included with domain name registrations through our
> system. In this way, we encourage our web hosting business.
> However, we don't want to host domains that will get our mailservers
> blackholed. Do you know how easy it is to get your mailserver
> blackholed? Take a look at the blackhole lists.....there is a common
> thread.
> http://maps.vix.com/rbl/candidacy.html#ByAssociation
>
> It has nothing to do with censorship, and even though those we refuse to
> register might feel otherwise, we DO have the right to do business with
> whomever we choose.
>
> -Ken
> http://pacificdomains.net
>
>
> Alpha Opportunities wrote:
> >
> > Okay, my turn to weigh in on this already beaten-to-death subject (this
must
> > be a new record for list messages on a single topic in such a short
time --
> > you can see how much interest this topic generates and, inter alia, why
so
> > many people and companies want to register so-called "risque" names).
> >
> > I think, as RSPs, we should stay the f**k out of censorship, and let
people
> > decide for themselves what names are or are not proper for their given
> > businesses. And when you look at some of the names already out there
(go
> > ahead, think of the sleaziest, crudest, most disgusting, illegal things
you
> > can think of, and do a search if you don't believe me), geez, something
with
> > such a mild component as the f-word is hardly anything worth sweating
over.
> > What five-year-old doesn't have it as part of his or her vocabulary
already?
> >
> > Personally, I can't stand censorship and holier-than-thou hypocrisy, so
> > unless you are a church or some sort of religious group, just run your
damn
> > RSP and let your clients make their own decisions like big boys and
girls.
> >
> > That's one of the reasons I have chosen not to register any .ws names
> > (besides the fact that I don't think they carry near the weight of a
.com
> > domain) -- they want to censor everthing the least bit off-color and
just
> > don't let you register it. What BS -- who gives them the moral right to
> > tell me what is acceptable and what is not?
> >
> > Having lived in lots of highly hypocritical cultures (yes, even more so
than
> > the U.S. and Canada, if you can believe that), it has been my experience
> > that the more people mind other people's business, the less they mind
their
> > own, with disasterous consequences for their countries, societies, and
> > economies -- not to mention their own pathetic narrow little lives.
> >
> > Anyway, my two cents, for what it is worth in this increasingly uptight
> > world.
> >
> > Frank J. Yacenda
> > President & CEO
> > Alpha Opportunities
> > www.dotyourdomain.com
> > Domains just $14.99/year
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Charles Daminato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 12:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: profanedomains.com
> >
> > > There's one thing in this thread that may have been overlooked (just
to
> > > protect DomainDirect/Tucows, mind you...).
> > >
> > > Many of our resellers still use ns1/ns2.domaindirect.com as their
> > > default nameservers (against our advisement, and we're working on
> > > getting this all changed). So even though the nameservers show as
ours,
> > > it's possible that this domain wasn't registered through us.
Although,
> > > I cannot verify as I do not know the domain name in question....
> > >
> > > That aside - when ICANN deregulated the name space, hordes of names
> > > (mostly through CORE) that were 'risque' became part of the general
name
> > > space. In respect to competition, if the customer isn't doing
anything
> > > illegal, a new name is a new name :)
> > >
> > > Ken wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Okay, this is a joke right? well, sort of..
> > > >
> > > > A customer of ours just registered a domain that started with the
> > > > "f-word" at domaindirect.com
> > > >
> > > > We had refused to register it, since we have strong feelings about
the
> > > > wisdom of registering such names AND we were advised by opensrs
support
> > > > that they were constrained by network solutions rules and would not
> > > > register such names.
> > > >
> > > > We don't plan to start handling these names, since the repurcussions
of
> > > > name@fu**this.com are very negative for our business, but I am
suprised
> > > > that domaindirect.com, a Tucows company would do this, when opensrs
> > > > staff advised us that they would not / could not do it.
> > > >
> > > > -Ken
> > > > http://domains.pacific.net
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Charles Daminato
> > > Tucows Product Manager (ccTLDs)
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
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