On Wed, 9 May 2001 08:50:53 +1000, Kirk Fletcher wrote:

Hello Kirk,

         Let me tell you about my experiences with them. I signed up with 
when they first started out about 2 years ago. At that time the web mail 
system was great! It was easy to setup and as the domain holder you got take 
50% of the banner adverting space. I also won a contest they held for 
www.E-MailCity.com and 6 other sites, but it took months for them to pay up 
and that was only after some serious nagging at least once a week. I also 
come up with an idea for a Free Web Mail Directory before they started 
one of their own at their site amazingly 4 months later. Then some time 
around October/2000 they started with popup ads and offered some sites 
$100.00 to add the code to the html if the webmasters kept it there for 
a minimum of 30 days. I was one of the lucky ones (so I thought) that 
was offered a $100.00 to do this. That was in Oct/2000 and have not received 
a dime and I am still fighting with them on that one. I have seen my stats 
with the number of people I have sent to them to sign up. Same story... I 
am now stuck with their web mail for E-MailCity.com due to the large number 
of people that have signed up for free web e-mail addresses until I come 
up with my own Web Mail system. (Which we are working on now.) To top things 
off, the advertising space is no longer 50% (Yes it is for the 468x60 banners
but nothing else). If you sign up for a test account and take a look you can 
see there is a whole column on the right hand side that you do not get anything 
for that advertising space and the web mail not only has started to look like 
a post-it-palace for banners but there is also annoying pop-ups in the back 
ground. Now that they have got over 500,000 sites signed up they are now 
offering pay services if you do not want the ads in the system. Why in the
world someone would pay them to keep your users at their convenience is 
beyond me at this point.

Here is my thoughts on this. If you are interested in offer web mail
and run Windows go to http://www.argosoft.com and look at the package
they offer for 89.00 bucks. We use this on a client of ours and it
can take anything we have dished out. At times it hits 5000 messages
an hour. On all our other host we user qmail. The other thing is look 
into the 20 or so FREE opensource webmail systems for Linux. You can 
find these at SourceForge.net. Once you have your own system going your 
users will love you because you can keep the ads down to a roar and 
they will come back all the time. I lost over 85% of the members I had 
on just one of me sites in less than 3 months since they modeled the new
mail look after a post-it-palace.

So in short, if you want to keep 100% of your clients happy and coming
back, setup your own mail system. I regret each day I ever left it go 
this far and now have 10 times the amount of work to do in the future
once I am ready to announce a new mail option on my domain. 

Regards,
       ...Darrell

>Hey all,
>
>I was just wondering if others had signed up for the everyone.net
>affiliate program so they could offer plug-in email with domains?
>If so, how have you found the program?  Have they paid up?
>
>Now, I'm not normally one to go for affiliate programs - because I
>don't trust them - but I thought I'd give everyone.net a go.  They
>(supposedly) pay $2 for each webmaster that signs up - plus a bonus
>of $20 if that webmaster gets lots of hits in first month.  They
>had a good reputation though, and their service complimented mine,
>so I went for it.
>
>Anyway, to cut a long story short, we haven't got any money from
>them, when we should have.  It's possible there's a perfectly
>valid reason for this - or perhaps just some mix-up, but they
>never answer email and I'm not sure what to do.  I thought I'd
>see what sort of experience others on the list had.
>
>I welcome your comments.
>
>Regards,
>Kirk... still not too trusting with affiliate programs
>
>
>PS:  If you haven't seen plug-in-email service, its here:
>
>http://www.everyone.net/main/html/email_tour.html
>
>Or, you can use my affiliate link (for what good it does):
>
>http://affiliate.everyone.net/affiliate/scripts/affiliate.pl?a4576&service=e
>mail&redir=email_tour.html
>
>
>
>



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