What I'm saying is that regardless of the paper trail that has to be
generated for the acquisition of this domain, giving money to NSI is
unfortunately going to be a part of it.

If the former domain holder cannot be reached and the domain is
already past expiry, and Steve has a company name or trademark
paperwork that identifies the connection between himself and either
the domain or the company name on the domain, the procedure to get
control of the domain is well documented.  He pays the $35 to NSI,
does a FAX authorization to change the admin contact to a valid
email address, then authorizes the registrar change.  I've done it
a number of times for customers who "left" previous ISPs without
securing their old email addresses.

And if Steve *doesn't* have a trademark or real company that actually
warrants the use of the domain, it would of course be unacceptable to
do all this just to squat.  But that's a different discussion.

The August 10th decision doesn't eliminate the process of selling an
already registered domain to someone else, as long as NSI's policies
are followed and their paper trail is complete.  That's how it's always
been, and a change in policy isn't going to deter those of us who know
how to read the instructions.

Good article, by the way.

p


On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 11:41:32AM +0700, DomainGuideBook.com wrote:
> 
> I think Steve was saying that this isn't his domain, just a domain he is
> interested in acquiring, hence paying $35 to NetSol isn't really going to
> help much.
> 
> > > If I am able to get it does the original owner have a right to take it
> back,
> > > (nothing was ever done with the site)?
> 
> Not unless they have a trademark on it, and even then it isn't certain they
> could get it back.
> 
> > > Any tips trick or techniques would be appreciated.
> 
> If it is a valuable generic name, you could be competing with hundreds of
> domain speculators for the name. But that's not a big issue at the moment,
> because NetSol have suspended their 'batch release' of expired domains. See
> this article for further info:
> 
> Domain Name Goldrush Part 4 - Expiring Domains Industry on Hold
> http://www.ecommercebase.com/article/526
> 
> Lee Hodgson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Chvostek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Steve Perrott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 11:13 AM
> Subject: Re: Domain held up at Network Solutions
> 
> 
> >
> > Whatever you do, don't convince NSI to "delete" the domain from their
> > database -- somebody else will snap it up before you can register it,
> > and you'll lose out.
> >
> > Sad to say, your best bet is almost certainly to pay NSI their $35 for
> > the year, and as soon as the expiry date is revised, get the frig away
> > from them.
> >
> > I don't know what dollar figure you put on an hour of your time, but if
> > you're considering an hour of time just to be on hold on NSI's 800 #,
> > you've almost certainly eaten the $35, and they have *no* procedures to
> > allow you to guarantee the continued availability of a domain if they
> > can't expect any money from you.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 08:28:26PM -0700, Steve Perrott wrote:
> > >
> > > I am trying to get a domain that is being held by Network Solutions that
> > > expired in April of this year.  This is about 4 months later that the
> domain
> > > hasn't been paid for, there is not a site there and I would like any
> inside
> > > info on how to get it.
> > >
> > > I have been told that it may be held up for as long as 3 years.
> > >
> > > If I am able to get it does the original owner have a right to take it
> back,
> > > (nothing was ever done with the site)?
> > >
> > > Any tips trick or techniques would be appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> >
> > --
> >   Paul Chvostek                                             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >

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