Three day's are very short time, did he send liver out for test ?

See, it is like in regarding listerose or coccidiose, original african 
import are able to handle this, same as for virus disease, very resistant.

Everone of us has a different type of sheep and I can only write about, what 
the sheep farmers do in our area.And they feed free choice kelp or salt with 
high copper level, especially when breeding.
You have to find it out carefully.

Here a mail I got this moring:




I need some input on an article in the Stockman GrassFarmer.  It is a page 
one story and I am sure some of you have read it.
There is a fellow named Rick Calvo in Nebraska that raises cattle and 
hairsheep - mostly Katahdin. It seems he had a parasite problem when he 
moved his sheep from the Oklahoma ranch he bought them at to his place. 
Someone told him he had low copper in his soil.  He then gave his 400 plus 
ewe flock a mineral mix high in copper and his problem was solved.

I am not doubting this story BUT it flies in the face of everything I have 
ever learned about sheep and copper.

Somebody please help explain this to me.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephanie Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Number of lambs


>I can find no literature that differentiates between hair/wool sheep
> when it comes to copper ppm.  Helmut, I feel you are very educated on
> sheep and have valued your opinion on many matters.  If you have access
> to info on copper I'd love to read it.  It would sure make it easier to
> feed everyone the same thing and quit trying to make sure that the sheep
> are seperated out!!  I'd love to hear of other folks opinion.  I DO know
> this.........a friend of mine bought 6 HEALTHY  american bb because they
> were "cute" and turned them in with her cattle where they had access to
> a cattle tub.  3 days later they were dead. And no, they were not overly
> stresses and yes they were eating and drinking.  180 ppm in the cattle
> tub. Just my observation....  Carol, surely you know something on this
> matter ;)
>
> Stephanie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "hlang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info>
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Number of lambs
>
>
>>
>> Because Hair sheep take same copper concentration as beef.
>>
>> They are different than wool sheep, need a different management.We run
> them
>> as beef in same management.
>>
>> With best regards Helmut
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Julian Hale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info>
>> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Number of lambs
>>
>>
>> > At 09:55 PM 1/30/2006, you wrote:
>> >>It was my understanding that copper in excess of 18ppm was toxic,
> and
>> >>often fatal to sheep.  Am I mistaken in this?  If so, what is the
> safe
>> >>dosage?
>> >
>> > No, you're not mistaken... Helmut, why do you supplement copper?
> Did
>> > you maybe mean selenium?  I know selenium definitely has an effect
> on
>> > fertility.
>> >
>> > Julian
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