Thank you Cecil for sharing your experiences.  I don't respond often to the 
list.
I too think that most people overfeed their bottle babies.  In our haste to 
be a good steward we forget that the little critters do not have human 
emotion or needs.
In the past I too tried to feed too much too often.  Now I just keep the 
baby warm, feed small amounts 2 to 3 hours apart (only during daylight 
hours), and try not to worry.
Even as the lambs get older, I do not exceed 3 cups of milk replacer a day 
and that is usually split into 2 to 3 feedings during the daylight hours.  I 
do not offer grain as their stomachs have trouble processing it.  They are 
fed a small pellet and alfalfa hay.  Haven't lost a lamb in several years. 
My ewes have taken care of their lambs this year and it has been a rough 
year here in TX.  Now we have grass and it is wonderful to see well fed 
lambs with their slick mamas.
Thank you,
Rhonda
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cecil Bearden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info>
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: [blackbelly] amount of colostrum needed


>I disagree with this recommendation.  I have had 4 lambs in the past 7 
>years
> that had to be bottle fed.  3 died.  I now believe this was from 
> enteroxemia
> due to over feeding.  The lamb that I had so much trouble with but 
> survived
> has shown me that I was over feeding.  When weighed about 8 lbs when I was
> feeding her 1 oz every 2 hours and developed enterotoxemia.  I later tried
> this again a week later and she nearly died from overeating.
>
> I milked out a ewe that had twins and one born dead.  The other was very
> weak from the birthing.  I only got 1 oz from her total.  I fed the lamb
> with a tube and he is doing fine now.  If he had nursed and had another
> sibling, he only would have received 1/2 oz.
>
> I had a lamb that was very cold from exposure and not enough milk.  I
> brought him into the house and fed him during the night.  about 1 1/2 oz
> every 1 1/2 hours.  He died 24 hours later.  I pulled fluid from his 
> stomach
> when I was trying to revive him and got a back fluid.  This was the 
> stomach
> lining due to enterotoxemia.  Same fluid found  when I had so much trouble
> with my latest bottle baby that is now doing fine.  She has been bouncing
> around in a playpen in the living room.  She goes everywhere with me.  One
> of these days she is going to be a sheep, not a child..
>
> I have discussed this with my vet who is on site nearly every day and he
> agrees that we have just overfed blackbellies in the past and we have
> altered our feeding amounts for newborns.
>
> Just my $0.02
>
> Cecil Bearden
> Oklahoma
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Carol Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info>; "Nancy Richardson"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] amount of colostrum needed
>
>
>>
>> Hi Nancy,
>>
>> This is from Laura Lawson's book, Managing Your Ewe and Her Newborn Lambs
>> (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/096339231X/critterhavenesta
>>
>> I consider this book to be a Must-Have book for all shepherds.
>>
>> "Recommendations by knowledgeable authorities are for a minimum of 7 oz.
>> as
>> a first feeding after birth. Lambs may need as much as 12 oz. depending 
>> on
>> the size of the lamb. The equation set forth is about 20cc per pound of
>> body weight for the first feeding. The lamb should receive this amount
>> from
>> 30 to 60 minutes of birth. ... In the case of orphan lambs, initial
>> amounts
>> of colostrum should be followed at later feedings with divided amounts of
>> colostrum for 24 hours. Amounts should equal 15% to 20% of the lamb's 
>> body
>> weight. Unfortunately producers don't have unlimited supplies of
>> colostrum.
>> This often requires using artificial colostrum for future feedings. Only
>> use these after giving the lamb the initial appropriate ewe colostrum of 
>> a
>> minimum amount of 7 oz. within one hour of birth."
>>
>> These amounts are for wooled sheep; here are the adjustments that should
>> be
>> made for smaller blackbelly sheep.
>>
>> Let's do the math on her formula 20 cc colostrum per pound of lamb
>> Let's say the average blackbelly lamb is 6 lb.
>> 20 cc X 6 lb = 120 cc
>> Convert this to ounces (1 oz = 30 mL = 30 cc): 120 cc / 30 cc = 4 oz for
>> the first feeding after birth.
>>
>> She says the total amount for 24 hours should be 20% of the lamb's 
>> weight.
>> 6 lb x 16 oz/lb = 96 oz.   20% of 96 oz. = 19 oz.
>>
>> So, although your 7 oz. exceeded the first feeding requirement, it was
>> short of the total amount needed in 24 hours by 12 oz.
>>
>> Carol
>>
>> At 09:48 PM 5/5/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>>>Hello, does any one know how much colostrum is needed by a lamb? We had
>>>triplets born. 2 of them to small to reach momma and her to wild to 
>>>catch.
>>>I
>>>fed them both 3 ounces of colostrum mix before they were 2 hours old. But
>>>after that could only get about 1/2 ounce down them every few hours for a
>>>total of about 7 ounces in 24 hours. They only weigh about 2 pounds or so
>>>each. They are very small. We have never raised ones so small. Thanks
>>>Nancy
>>
>> Carol Elkins
>> Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep
>> (no shear, no dock, no fuss)
>> Pueblo, Colorado
>> http://www.critterhaven.biz
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