Hello, I hope everyone in the midwest is all safe and sound. Our sheep woke 
up the other morning to 14" of snow that they didn't know what to do with. 
They were afraid to go out in it! Any way just wanted to let everyone know 
we still have several almost 1 year old rams available to become herd sires. 
They were sired by "Wingnut" . We have both blackbellies and corsicans. 
Please email for photos. Thanks Nancy www.freewebs.com/mossyspringsranch I 
have put on a few new pictures.
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> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:08:03 -0800 (PST)
> From: Terry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Winter strategies
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> I am a bit slow etting to mail, and I find this interesting--
>
> I am currently using Stall Dry sprinkled over the wooden floors, with a 
> layer
> of peat moss over that. Then, A good sized bag of sawdust-- which I get 
> for 5
> dollars a pickup truck load ( I am using my brother's PU truck-- it's 
> bigger
> than mine!) To add to the bedding, I first stir up the old stuff, then 
> level it
> out--add some more peat, then top with with sawdust.  My brother, the
> "germaphobe" has no complaints about odor or moisture in the now, totally
> enclosed barn. The ram is actually bedding down near the wall that takes 
> the
> brunt of the cold winds.  When I am ready to strip the stall, I can just 
> sweep
> it all out with a heavy duty broom. I am using the "pre-mixed compost 
> formula"
> as filler for the low spots in the pasture area-- and it is already making 
> a
> difference in what the rain does to my pasture areas.  I told some people 
> on a
> rabbit forum I belong to about this ( I use it for my rabbits, as well), 
> they
> have tried it, and now are happy about keeping their rabbits in their 
> homes.
>
> Stall Dry is a mixture of Diatomaceous Earth ( food grade, for safety) and
> clay-- a very fine clay, at that. It absorbs very nicely, and neutralizes 
> odor.
> The peat absorbs, as well, and seems to  dry faster than the sawdust, 
> pulling
> the moisture out of the sawdust!!!
>
> Now, this may be a bit expensive for large numbers of animals, but if one 
> must
> keep  an animal in some very confined quarters, it is great. I would not 
> use it
> for  lambing, though-- too much risk of clogging the lambs wet nostrils 
> with
> sawdust and peat dust. Perhaps after they are a week old, though--
>
> Terry W
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:51:39 -0800
> From: "Kyla Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Winter strategies
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> Terry,
>
> Where do you find sawdust for $5.00 a truck load?  That sounds like a 
> great
> deal.  If I can locate some in my area, I would love to give your method a
> try.  Do you feed your sheep in the stall also?  If so what do you do 
> about
> the hay waste?  My sheep eat the tender parts and leave a mess of stems
> behind.  We end up with quite a pile of "stems" in our stall.  How often 
> to
> you need to clean out the stall using your combination of products?
>
> Thanks for the advice,
>
> Kyla R.
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> From: "Terry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info>
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Winter strategies
>
>
>>I am a bit slow etting to mail, and I find this interesting--
>>
>> I am currently using Stall Dry sprinkled over the wooden floors, with a
>> layer
>> of peat moss over that. Then, A good sized bag of sawdust-- which I get
>> for 5
>> dollars a pickup truck load ( I am using my brother's PU truck-- it's
>> bigger
>> than mine!) To add to the bedding, I first stir up the old stuff, then
>> level it
>> out--add some more peat, then top with with sawdust.  My brother, the
>> "germaphobe" has no complaints about odor or moisture in the now, totally
>> enclosed barn. The ram is actually bedding down near the wall that takes
>> the
>> brunt of the cold winds.  When I am ready to strip the stall, I can just
>> sweep
>> it all out with a heavy duty broom. I am using the "pre-mixed compost
>> formula"
>> as filler for the low spots in the pasture area-- and it is already 
>> making
>> a
>> difference in what the rain does to my pasture areas.  I told some people
>> on a
>> rabbit forum I belong to about this ( I use it for my rabbits, as well),
>> they
>> have tried it, and now are happy about keeping their rabbits in their
>> homes.
>>
>> Stall Dry is a mixture of Diatomaceous Earth ( food grade, for safety) 
>> and
>> clay-- a very fine clay, at that. It absorbs very nicely, and neutralizes
>> odor.
>> The peat absorbs, as well, and seems to  dry faster than the sawdust,
>> pulling
>> the moisture out of the sawdust!!!
>>
>> Now, this may be a bit expensive for large numbers of animals, but if one
>> must
>> keep  an animal in some very confined quarters, it is great. I would not
>> use it
>> for  lambing, though-- too much risk of clogging the lambs wet nostrils
>> with
>> sawdust and peat dust. Perhaps after they are a week old, though--
>>
>> Terry W
>>
>>
>>
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> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 08:08:12 -0800 (PST)
> From: Terry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Winter strategies
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> I live in Amish country!!!
>
> There is an Amish owned/run sawill just about a mile from me--I have to 
> load
> myself, so I bag it in feed bags, then put it in the truck bed.  Some 
> sawmills
> actually have a way for a person to pull under the discharge chute, and 
> the
> stuff drops right in as the wood is cut.  It IS less expensive than buying 
> from
> the supply stores. I get the peat from a feed store-- less expensive than 
> a
> garden supply source.  Look for places that make furniture in your area. 
> Hard
> or softwood, it is always very dry before they start to cut it into 
> lumber--
> makes for soft warm bedding. I didn't even consider sawdust until I bedded 
> the
> pony ride ponies down in mud one night at the fair-- the sawdust soaked up
> enough moisture that the top layer was dry, and the ponies stayed nice and
> clean over the night-- yes, they lay down to sleep at the fairs-
>
> With hay being kind of messy, I feed a couple flakes outside in good 
> weather,
> and in bad weather, I feed it in the evening. Then, at the morning checkup
> time, I pitch anything on the ground out the stall door to become part of 
> the
> pasture fill process. I have a longer walk to fill low spots every week!!!
>
> There is a warning with this process-- spilled grain becomes seed for new
> plants outside--it is not something I mind, but many people with a 
> monoculture
> mindset do mind. I look at it as a way to introduce seeds of the plants 
> that my
> guys are eating into their pastures, which in turn, in a managed grazing
> program, turn the pastures into a good mixed hay field.
>
> Terry W
>
>
> --- Kyla Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Terry,
>>
>> Where do you find sawdust for $5.00 a truck load?  That sounds like a 
>> great
>> deal.  If I can locate some in my area, I would love to give your method 
>> a
>> try.  Do you feed your sheep in the stall also?  If so what do you do 
>> about
>> the hay waste?  My sheep eat the tender parts and leave a mess of stems
>> behind.  We end up with quite a pile of "stems" in our stall.  How often 
>> to
>> you need to clean out the stall using your combination of products?
>>
>> Thanks for the advice,
>>
>> Kyla R.
>
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