hmmm, I had no idea that by leaving off the word "blackbelly" I was causing "so 
much" confusion... ;-)  (worth two emails to fully clarify, even)

_Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies

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On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:20 AM, RAY DE SA <ray.d...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> You are correct Carrol, I personally raise ABB and do know the difference.  
> Most people don't and put the Barbado label on nearly all hair sheep.  My 
> friends who raise wool breeds for a living refer to all hair sheep as 
> Barbados and it's tough getting them to accept any other term.  Glad you put 
> more info out there than I have had time to. I am finding more people 
> interested in the breed. 
> --- On Mon, 9/26/11, Carol Elkins <celk...@critterhaven.biz> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Carol Elkins <celk...@critterhaven.biz>
> Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Need help with identifying a ewe
> To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
> Date: Monday, September 26, 2011, 9:53 AM
> 
> 
> Let's make sure we are using the correct breed names, especially when trying 
> to help someone not familiar with either breed.
> 
> Barbados Blackbelly are polled (neither ram nor ewe has horns). They are not 
> called barbado or anything other than Barbados Blackbelly. There are fewer 
> than 500 of these sheep in the U.S. The registry for Barbados Blackbelly is 
> closed, meaning that only sheep whose parents are registered can be 
> registered themselves. This helps ensure that crossbreeds don't slip into the 
> common gene pool.
> 
> American Blackbelly rams have horns, and often the ewes have horns or scurs. 
> They should not be called "barbado," but they often are in Texas because it 
> is a common nickname. American Blackbelly breeders have worked hard to 
> develop their breed so that it consistently and predictably reproduces true 
> to type. White, other than in the tip of the tail, is a disqualifying trait.
> 
> Barbado is not a breed. Barbado sheep meet no breed standard. They often do 
> not have black bellies or facial barbs. They often are cross-bred sheep and 
> may display various degrees of wooliness and off-type markings, but generally 
> are a hair sheep.
> 
> Carol
> 
> At 07:16 PM 9/25/2011, you wrote:
>> Definitely Barbado or American Blackbelly- mix with something else. My AB 
>> girls mostly have horn scurs, I would think a true barbado would not.
> 
> Carol Elkins
> Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep
> (no shear, no dock, no fuss)
> Pueblo, Colorado
> http://www.critterhaven.biz
> 
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