The sheep dog national championships are held in Park City, Utah every year 
around the first of August. These dogs and their handlers are amazing to watch. 
If you ever get a chance to attend this event, you should. I would recommend it 
to everyone. 
Dan Hart
Mastiff Ranches
American Blackbellys
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Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 21:05:17 -0700
From: Michael Smith <mwsmotorspo...@gmail.com>
To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Can we trim horns? (Follow up)
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In California, a mature dog trained like that is worth $7,000
-$10,000. A pup with a year's training, more to go, and showing
promise-- is worth about $1500 or more.

I have a mature Aussie dog I rescued from a bad situation. She was not
trained at all to do "anything" till I got her at 3 yrs old. I can
clicker train my dog to do the basics, she's whip smart, but doesn't
have that serious owner/dog bond that comes from training as a pup.
Since I don't know how to train to herd, and don't have the time, I
would have to purchase a trained dog, and as some have mentioned, go
to classes, myself, to learn how to use the finely tuned tool I just
bought.

I wonder how in our state, people can actually pay that kind of money
and make it pencil out?  But I agree, watching well-trained herding
dogs, and I have watched several, is amazing.

-Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies.

On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Nancy Johnson <imgr8a...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I am very glad to hear you succeeded in your catch quest.  I have a small 
> farm, only 22 sheep at the moment, they all know their names and come running 
> when I call, but after I catch the first one, the others are wise and won't 
> be caught.
> 
> I feel compelled to tell you about a recent trip I took and what I learned.  
> I have just returned from a trip to Mary Swindell's farm in Illinois, where I 
> learned more in the two hours she spent with me, than I have learned on my 
> own since I got my first lamb in 2005.
> 
> When it comes to catching lambs and sheep, I have been there and done that.  
> I have chased, roped, grabbed, jumped and dove to try and catch sheep.  There 
> is a much less stressful way for both shepherd and sheep!!!!
> 
> Please read the article Mary wrote in the BBSAI newsletter that just came 
> out.  She explains how to get your sheep into a pen without a herding dog and 
> I know for a fact that this method will work if you work it.  You need to 
> work it calmly and with patience.
> 
> A herding dog can make your life as stress free as it could get with sheep.  
> I have attended the MD Sheep and Wool festival every May since 2007 and I 
> have been the American and Barbados Blackbelly breed exhibitor at the 
> festival for 3 years now and I have yet to attend a live herding 
> demonstration.  At Mary's farm I witnessed what my life could be like with a 
> herding dog.  Let me tell you, I was absolutely amazed at how Mary and Katie 
> (border collie) work together.  Together, they  rounded up Mary's some 20-25 
> rams into a small area at one end of an existing large paddock and their 
> presence allowed Mary to show me her individual rams for some 10-15 minutes.
> 
> Afterwards, we went to the nursing ewes and weaned lambs who were out in a 
> very large paddock.  Together, within 3 minutes, they brought all of the 
> sheep into a smaller area for us to see and again, they hung in one section 
> of the area for Mary to show them to us.
> 
> As soon as we got back into our truck, my husband said to me "so, when are we 
> getting a border collie"?  It's a very good idea.  I'm sure that I will need 
> lots of training, but my thoughts as I begin my breeding business, I will 
> definitely need a herding dog in the future!.  Food for thought for even the 
> smallest farm.
> 
> 
> On Jul 6, 2012, at 11:10 PM, atwoo...@aol.com wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> In a message dated 4/23/2012 3:03:00  P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> blackbelly-requ...@lists.blackbellysheep.info  writes:
>> Can we trim horns?
>> 
>> We just want to thank everyone who sent suggestions on how to trim our
>> little weather's horns. We just finished the job recently due to trouble
>> catching him.  We tried initially to snag him alone in the shed, but he  
>> bounded
>> through the gate and was gone for another 3 weeks LOL. We bought a  kibble
>> concoction used by 4-H-er's to calm show sheep (has magnesium  in it) and fed
>> that 3 days prior to our next attempt.  We got all of them  in the shed
>> this time, caught the one to be doctored and let the others out. At  least 
>> that
>> was the plan...one of the healthy other two bolted out but  the last one
>> refused, showing me his determination to protect his  brother.  Once 
>> satisfied
>> we weren't hurting him, the last one went out  also.  So our little guy got
>> pinned down, a blinder cloth over the eyes, a  thorough hand de-shedding
>> and brushing, and the small girth horns trimmed easily  with branch cutters
>> without bleeding. Our little guy is eating again, putting on  weight and very
>> happy with himself.  Again, thanks for all the help!
>> 
>> The Atwoods,
>> Placerville, CA
>> 
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